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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lol @ the guy who said our O-Line is fine. Smh just smh


You think Stafford is getting sacked to much or something?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stylish313 wrote:
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You have to be kidding right? A WR and a RB in the 1st 2 rounds? No just stop.


Lol noob
Laughing I love WRs. Laughing


Id tell him to stick around for a while, but the size of his avy tells me he won't.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rocket wrote:
LionsFTW wrote:
rocket wrote:
You have to be kidding right? A WR and a RB in the 1st 2 rounds? No just stop.


Lol noob


I guess you must want a WR in the first round too. You should be a GM!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
rocket wrote:
LionsFTW wrote:
rocket wrote:
You have to be kidding right? A WR and a RB in the 1st 2 rounds? No just stop.


Lol noob


I guess you must want a WR in the first round too. You should be a GM!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryan L wrote:
BlackandBlue wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
ahoda wrote:
Sweet, another 5-11 season in 2013!
Yeah,, if we wanna truly get serious about winning, we've gotta address the defensive side of the ball.


The defense held the Packers to 20 points. Not sure about this season, but last season the average amount of points scored by a team was 22 points.

When a defense holds a good offense to below league average, and the offense is unable to score above league average, I blame the offense.

Let's look at some losses this season:

Titans 44-41- Two ST scores and a INT return TD is what lost this. The lions D held the Titans offense to 20 points in regulation

Vikings 20-13- Taking away special teams scores, the Vikings were held to six

@ Bears 13-7 We held the Bears offense to 13 points, yet were unable to score a TD until garbage time

Green Bay 24-20 The defense held Green Bay's offense to 17. And this is counting the late FG after Green Bay took over after loss of downs already in FG range

@ Green Bay 27-20- Another loss in which a turnover provided the winning margin for Breen Bay

That's five of our eight losses in which the defense held an offense to below twenty. three of those losses the defense held the offense to less than two TDs.

I don't understand how people are blaming the defense for this season, especially considering the awful spots the offense has put them in a large part of the time.


Well put. I love how you post up tangible fact that shows our Def hasn't been near as bad as most of the blinded pissed off fans would like to believe. Our Off has not played a solid or complete game most season. Seems most games we don't play until half way through the 3rd quarter and the Def is the only reason we're in the game at that point to attempt a comeback.

Like it or not there's as good of WR talent coming out in the 1st 3 rounds this year as there's been in the last 3-4. "top tier" talent guys don't always break out lord knows we know all about that, but there's gonna be some VERY talented guys avail this year.
Food for thought like it or not.



But a big problem with that thinking in my opinion is the fact that majority of our current players starting on defense are about to become FA.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahoda wrote:
Ryan L wrote:
BlackandBlue wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
ahoda wrote:
Sweet, another 5-11 season in 2013!
Yeah,, if we wanna truly get serious about winning, we've gotta address the defensive side of the ball.


The defense held the Packers to 20 points. Not sure about this season, but last season the average amount of points scored by a team was 22 points.

When a defense holds a good offense to below league average, and the offense is unable to score above league average, I blame the offense.

Let's look at some losses this season:

Titans 44-41- Two ST scores and a INT return TD is what lost this. The lions D held the Titans offense to 20 points in regulation

Vikings 20-13- Taking away special teams scores, the Vikings were held to six

@ Bears 13-7 We held the Bears offense to 13 points, yet were unable to score a TD until garbage time

Green Bay 24-20 The defense held Green Bay's offense to 17. And this is counting the late FG after Green Bay took over after loss of downs already in FG range

@ Green Bay 27-20- Another loss in which a turnover provided the winning margin for Breen Bay

That's five of our eight losses in which the defense held an offense to below twenty. three of those losses the defense held the offense to less than two TDs.

I don't understand how people are blaming the defense for this season, especially considering the awful spots the offense has put them in a large part of the time.


Well put. I love how you post up tangible fact that shows our Def hasn't been near as bad as most of the blinded pissed off fans would like to believe. Our Off has not played a solid or complete game most season. Seems most games we don't play until half way through the 3rd quarter and the Def is the only reason we're in the game at that point to attempt a comeback.

Like it or not there's as good of WR talent coming out in the 1st 3 rounds this year as there's been in the last 3-4. "top tier" talent guys don't always break out lord knows we know all about that, but there's gonna be some VERY talented guys avail this year.
Food for thought like it or not.



But a big problem with that thinking in my opinion is the fact that majority of our current players starting on defense are about to become FA.
That's no biggie. We've got one F/A on offense, let's just finish that side of the ball. If once you don't succeed, try-try-try-try-try-try-try again.

We only have about $1.5M invested at DB, so we can just fanchise Houston, ditch Avril, and roll with Willie Young, Lo Jack, Bentley, and Don Carey. I'm sure Tahir is ready to start In place of Either Durant or Levy as well, he looked great in TC.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LionsFTW wrote:
rocket wrote:
Lol @ the guy who said our O-Line is fine. Smh just smh


You think Stafford is getting sacked to much or something?


So you judge our O-Line by the amount of sacks they give up? And I signed up for this forum because I just wanted to see others thoughts, chill out buddy. This isn't the only forum I post on.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rocket wrote:
LionsFTW wrote:
rocket wrote:
Lol @ the guy who said our O-Line is fine. Smh just smh


You think Stafford is getting sacked to much or something?


So you judge our O-Line by the amount of sacks they give up? And I signed up for this forum because I just wanted to see others thoughts, chill out buddy. This isn't the only forum I post on.


I was just wondering if that's what you thought. Our oline is aging but are among one of the best in the NFL in pass protection and were 16th in the NFL with 4.2 yards per rushing attempt. They are hardly something to worry about this offseason when we have more glaring needs to fill.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stylish313 wrote:
ahoda wrote:
Ryan L wrote:
BlackandBlue wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
ahoda wrote:
Sweet, another 5-11 season in 2013!
Yeah,, if we wanna truly get serious about winning, we've gotta address the defensive side of the ball.


The defense held the Packers to 20 points. Not sure about this season, but last season the average amount of points scored by a team was 22 points.

When a defense holds a good offense to below league average, and the offense is unable to score above league average, I blame the offense.

Let's look at some losses this season:

Titans 44-41- Two ST scores and a INT return TD is what lost this. The lions D held the Titans offense to 20 points in regulation

Vikings 20-13- Taking away special teams scores, the Vikings were held to six

@ Bears 13-7 We held the Bears offense to 13 points, yet were unable to score a TD until garbage time

Green Bay 24-20 The defense held Green Bay's offense to 17. And this is counting the late FG after Green Bay took over after loss of downs already in FG range

@ Green Bay 27-20- Another loss in which a turnover provided the winning margin for Breen Bay

That's five of our eight losses in which the defense held an offense to below twenty. three of those losses the defense held the offense to less than two TDs.

I don't understand how people are blaming the defense for this season, especially considering the awful spots the offense has put them in a large part of the time.


Well put. I love how you post up tangible fact that shows our Def hasn't been near as bad as most of the blinded pissed off fans would like to believe. Our Off has not played a solid or complete game most season. Seems most games we don't play until half way through the 3rd quarter and the Def is the only reason we're in the game at that point to attempt a comeback.

Like it or not there's as good of WR talent coming out in the 1st 3 rounds this year as there's been in the last 3-4. "top tier" talent guys don't always break out lord knows we know all about that, but there's gonna be some VERY talented guys avail this year.
Food for thought like it or not.



But a big problem with that thinking in my opinion is the fact that majority of our current players starting on defense are about to become FA.
That's no biggie. We've got one F/A on offense, let's just finish that side of the ball. If once you don't succeed, try-try-try-try-try-try-try again.

We only have about $1.5M invested at DB, so we can just fanchise Houston, ditch Avril, and roll with Willie Young, Lo Jack, Bentley, and Don Carey. I'm sure Tahir is ready to start In place of Either Durant or Levy as well, he looked great in TC.



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll just say our lack of big runs in the run game is due to our oline rather than our backs. We struggle enough to to get our backs a decent hole at the line, so getting to the 2nd level is rare. I actually am quite pleased with our RB situation.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

detroitroar wrote:
I'll just say our lack of big runs in the run game is due to our oline rather than our backs. We struggle enough to to get our backs a decent hole at the line, so getting to the 2nd level is rare. I actually am quite pleased with our RB situation.


Joique Bell is our biggest gamebreaker. Joique.Bell. The journeyman that isnt fast. LeShoure tore is Achilles last year so u know he's not as fast as he could have been. Our line is doing good enough to give them over 4 yards a carry and if we woyld have had Best out there, there's no doubt in my mind that the stat you're talking about would be much better looking.
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