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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sweet, another 5-11 season in 2013!
Yeah,, if we wanna truly get serious about winning, we've gotta address the defensive side of the ball.


And Oline. Until then, we are just spinning our wheels and digging ourselves deeper into a pile of mud.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stylish313 wrote:
ahoda wrote:
Sweet, another 5-11 season in 2013!
Yeah,, if we wanna truly get serious about winning, we've gotta address the defensive side of the ball.


The defense held the Packers to 20 points. Not sure about this season, but last season the average amount of points scored by a team was 22 points.

When a defense holds a good offense to below league average, and the offense is unable to score above league average, I blame the offense.

Let's look at some losses this season:

Titans 44-41- Two ST scores and a INT return TD is what lost this. The lions D held the Titans offense to 20 points in regulation

Vikings 20-13- Taking away special teams scores, the Vikings were held to six

@ Bears 13-7 We held the Bears offense to 13 points, yet were unable to score a TD until garbage time

Green Bay 24-20 The defense held Green Bay's offense to 17. And this is counting the late FG after Green Bay took over after loss of downs already in FG range

@ Green Bay 27-20- Another loss in which a turnover provided the winning margin for Breen Bay

That's five of our eight losses in which the defense held an offense to below twenty. three of those losses the defense held the offense to less than two TDs.

I don't understand how people are blaming the defense for this season, especially considering the awful spots the offense has put them in a large part of the time.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the John Simon pick.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahoda wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
ahoda wrote:
Sweet, another 5-11 season in 2013!
Yeah,, if we wanna truly get serious about winning, we've gotta address the defensive side of the ball.


And Oline. Until then, we are just spinning our wheels and digging ourselves deeper into a pile of mud.

Our line is fine. They don't want to run, and they're very good in pass protection.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Awesome. Not only is your opinion of Mayhew splattered all over each thread, you finally created your own. Job well done.

(I gotta give Mayhew credit here: the offense would be amazing.)


Not with the offensive line as is.

Notice, though: this mock doesn't include FA signings, just re-signings. It's likely that, if the draft happened that way, Mayhew signed key free agents to address any concerns we had entering the draft.

Knowing that, it's a job well done.
Jake Long LT. Reiff RT/RG. GG
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skatebeanz wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
ManeLine wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
Awesome. Not only is your opinion of Mayhew splattered all over each thread, you finally created your own. Job well done.

(I gotta give Mayhew credit here: the offense would be amazing.)


Not with the offensive line as is.

Notice, though: this mock doesn't include FA signings, just re-signings. It's likely that, if the draft happened that way, Mayhew signed key free agents to address any concerns we had entering the draft.

Knowing that, it's a job well done.
Jake Long LT. Reiff RT/RG. GG


Jake Long is not worth the money some team will pay him.
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BlackandBlue wrote:
skatebeanz wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
ManeLine wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
Awesome. Not only is your opinion of Mayhew splattered all over each thread, you finally created your own. Job well done.

(I gotta give Mayhew credit here: the offense would be amazing.)


Not with the offensive line as is.

Notice, though: this mock doesn't include FA signings, just re-signings. It's likely that, if the draft happened that way, Mayhew signed key free agents to address any concerns we had entering the draft.

Knowing that, it's a job well done.
Jake Long LT. Reiff RT/RG. GG


Jake Long is not worth the money some team will pay him.
I don't wanna give him big money. But he fits our style.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahoda wrote:
Sweet, another 5-11 season in 2013!
Yeah,, if we wanna truly get serious about winning, we've gotta address the defensive side of the ball.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RyanFuller003 wrote:
ahoda wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
ahoda wrote:
Sweet, another 5-11 season in 2013!
Yeah,, if we wanna truly get serious about winning, we've gotta address the defensive side of the ball.


And Oline. Until then, we are just spinning our wheels and digging ourselves deeper into a pile of mud.

Our line is fine. They don't want to run, and they're very good in pass protection.


No way the OLine is fine. Backus and Dom are close to retirement, Gosder is a FA, and Peterman is just awful.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to be kidding right? A WR and a RB in the 1st 2 rounds? No just stop.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You have to be kidding right? A WR and a RB in the 1st 2 rounds? No just stop.


Lol noob
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You have to be kidding right? A WR and a RB in the 1st 2 rounds? No just stop.


Lol noob
Laughing I love WRs. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LionsFTW wrote:
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You have to be kidding right? A WR and a RB in the 1st 2 rounds? No just stop.


Lol noob


I guess you must want a WR in the first round too. You should be a GM!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol @ the guy who said our O-Line is fine. Smh just smh
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BlackandBlue wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
ahoda wrote:
Sweet, another 5-11 season in 2013!
Yeah,, if we wanna truly get serious about winning, we've gotta address the defensive side of the ball.


The defense held the Packers to 20 points. Not sure about this season, but last season the average amount of points scored by a team was 22 points.

When a defense holds a good offense to below league average, and the offense is unable to score above league average, I blame the offense.

Let's look at some losses this season:

Titans 44-41- Two ST scores and a INT return TD is what lost this. The lions D held the Titans offense to 20 points in regulation

Vikings 20-13- Taking away special teams scores, the Vikings were held to six

@ Bears 13-7 We held the Bears offense to 13 points, yet were unable to score a TD until garbage time

Green Bay 24-20 The defense held Green Bay's offense to 17. And this is counting the late FG after Green Bay took over after loss of downs already in FG range

@ Green Bay 27-20- Another loss in which a turnover provided the winning margin for Breen Bay

That's five of our eight losses in which the defense held an offense to below twenty. three of those losses the defense held the offense to less than two TDs.

I don't understand how people are blaming the defense for this season, especially considering the awful spots the offense has put them in a large part of the time.


Well put. I love how you post up tangible fact that shows our Def hasn't been near as bad as most of the blinded pissed off fans would like to believe. Our Off has not played a solid or complete game most season. Seems most games we don't play until half way through the 3rd quarter and the Def is the only reason we're in the game at that point to attempt a comeback.

Like it or not there's as good of WR talent coming out in the 1st 3 rounds this year as there's been in the last 3-4. "top tier" talent guys don't always break out lord knows we know all about that, but there's gonna be some VERY talented guys avail this year.
Food for thought like it or not.
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