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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whomever they have their eye on is likely coaching this weekend.

Allen has ties w/ Denver's staff and Atlanta's in some respect.

Reggie has ties to GB.

My guess is we see a relatively new name at the position. I just don't think the Raiders will break bank for a big name.
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DOCLEW 28 wrote:
TiberiusRising wrote:
NickButera wrote:
I'm surprised we haven't heard anything yet. No rumors, interviews, scheduled interviews, nothing. Wonder if they're targeting someone still playing football. There's a lot of good candidates out there right now. I would have liked them to get a jump on everyone else that is assembling their GM's and Head Coaches right now.


Good call. Here are the best canidates that meet that criteria.
Dorell may be my favorite of the bunch.

Pat Hill
Terry Robiskie
Karl Dorrell
Tim Drevno
Doug Nussmeier


Why would Doug Nussmeier leave the Alabama dynasty to come here???

Didnt say he would. I said these are the best canidates from teams that were still playing.


I get that. But I am asking why would he leave Alabama to come here? If he wouldn/t leave, he is not a good candidate because it is unrealistic to get him.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
Whomever they have their eye on is likely coaching this weekend.

Allen has ties w/ Denver's staff and Atlanta's in some respect.

Reggie has ties to GB.

My guess is we see a relatively new name at the position. I just don't think the Raiders will break bank for a big name.


Other than Norv what quality big names are really out there?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DOCLEW 28 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Whomever they have their eye on is likely coaching this weekend.

Allen has ties w/ Denver's staff and Atlanta's in some respect.

Reggie has ties to GB.

My guess is we see a relatively new name at the position. I just don't think the Raiders will break bank for a big name.


Other than Norv what quality big names are really out there?


Nobody has the clout of Turner obviously. But Carmichael is fairly well regarded and I could see him wanting a pretty penny to leave NO.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
DOCLEW 28 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Whomever they have their eye on is likely coaching this weekend.

Allen has ties w/ Denver's staff and Atlanta's in some respect.

Reggie has ties to GB.

My guess is we see a relatively new name at the position. I just don't think the Raiders will break bank for a big name.


Other than Norv what quality big names are really out there?


Nobody has the clout of Turner obviously. But Carmichael is fairly well regarded and I could see him wanting a pretty penny to leave NO.


Yeah why would he leave if it no HC gig??
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
Whomever they have their eye on is likely coaching this weekend.

Allen has ties w/ Denver's staff and Atlanta's in some respect.

Reggie has ties to GB.

My guess is we see a relatively new name at the position. I just don't think the Raiders will break bank for a big name.


The two guys that meet both old teams and teams in playoffs would be Hill and Robiskie.

Personally I think he is hoping for Carmichael and it aint going to happen.

Kromer, Mularky, Hill, Robiskie are runner ups.

I really like the idea of Karl Dorrel though.
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Rolni wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
DOCLEW 28 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Whomever they have their eye on is likely coaching this weekend.

Allen has ties w/ Denver's staff and Atlanta's in some respect.

Reggie has ties to GB.

My guess is we see a relatively new name at the position. I just don't think the Raiders will break bank for a big name.


Other than Norv what quality big names are really out there?


Nobody has the clout of Turner obviously. But Carmichael is fairly well regarded and I could see him wanting a pretty penny to leave NO.


Yeah why would he leave if it no HC gig??


He's not under contract with NO at the moment. And he might want a shot to prove he can run a successful offense without Sean Payton. I don't think anything will happen until all the HC spots are filled though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oakdb36 wrote:
Rolni wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
DOCLEW 28 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Whomever they have their eye on is likely coaching this weekend.

Allen has ties w/ Denver's staff and Atlanta's in some respect.

Reggie has ties to GB.

My guess is we see a relatively new name at the position. I just don't think the Raiders will break bank for a big name.


Other than Norv what quality big names are really out there?


Nobody has the clout of Turner obviously. But Carmichael is fairly well regarded and I could see him wanting a pretty penny to leave NO.


Yeah why would he leave if it no HC gig??


He's not under contract with NO at the moment. And he might want a shot to prove he can run a successful offense without Sean Payton. I don't think anything will happen until all the HC spots are filled though.


And I don't think I've heard him linked with any HC interviews either. Those openings are disappearing, too. Jax, Chi, Cle are the only ones lefft off the top of my head
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Silver&Black88 wrote:
oakdb36 wrote:
Rolni wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
DOCLEW 28 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Whomever they have their eye on is likely coaching this weekend.

Allen has ties w/ Denver's staff and Atlanta's in some respect.

Reggie has ties to GB.

My guess is we see a relatively new name at the position. I just don't think the Raiders will break bank for a big name.


Other than Norv what quality big names are really out there?


Nobody has the clout of Turner obviously. But Carmichael is fairly well regarded and I could see him wanting a pretty penny to leave NO.


Yeah why would he leave if it no HC gig??


He's not under contract with NO at the moment. And he might want a shot to prove he can run a successful offense without Sean Payton. I don't think anything will happen until all the HC spots are filled though.


And I don't think I've heard him linked with any HC interviews either. Those openings are disappearing, too. Jax, Chi, Cle are the only ones lefft off the top of my head


I think he was linked with Buffalo but they've already hired their guy.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oakdb36 wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
oakdb36 wrote:
Rolni wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
DOCLEW 28 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Whomever they have their eye on is likely coaching this weekend.

Allen has ties w/ Denver's staff and Atlanta's in some respect.

Reggie has ties to GB.

My guess is we see a relatively new name at the position. I just don't think the Raiders will break bank for a big name.


Other than Norv what quality big names are really out there?


Nobody has the clout of Turner obviously. But Carmichael is fairly well regarded and I could see him wanting a pretty penny to leave NO.


Yeah why would he leave if it no HC gig??


He's not under contract with NO at the moment. And he might want a shot to prove he can run a successful offense without Sean Payton. I don't think anything will happen until all the HC spots are filled though.


And I don't think I've heard him linked with any HC interviews either. Those openings are disappearing, too. Jax, Chi, Cle are the only ones lefft off the top of my head


I think he was linked with Buffalo but they've already hired their guy.


And what a guy they hired Laughing

Tbh, I'd take an OC job for 2 years if I were him unless he could get the CHI job. I'd puke if I had to take over the other 2 teams as a HC right now
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TiberiusRising wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Whomever they have their eye on is likely coaching this weekend.

Allen has ties w/ Denver's staff and Atlanta's in some respect.

Reggie has ties to GB.

My guess is we see a relatively new name at the position. I just don't think the Raiders will break bank for a big name.


The two guys that meet both old teams and teams in playoffs would be Hill and Robiskie.

Personally I think he is hoping for Carmichael and it aint going to happen.

Kromer, Mularky, Hill, Robiskie are runner ups.

I really like the idea of Karl Dorrel though.


QB coach of Houston? No thanks. Too soon for that IMO. Tried that w/ Knapp. I'm all for staying away from the Houston style offense with the talent the Raiders have.
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QB coach of Houston? No thanks. Too soon for that IMO. Tried that w/ Knapp. I'm all for staying away from the Houston style offense with the talent the Raiders have.


Yep, watching their playoff game made me realize they have the same issues we had this season. They can't stretch the field and they struggle in the red zone. If it wasn't for Arian Foster, i don't know how effective they'd be.
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big_palooka wrote:
TiberiusRising wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Whomever they have their eye on is likely coaching this weekend.

Allen has ties w/ Denver's staff and Atlanta's in some respect.

Reggie has ties to GB.

My guess is we see a relatively new name at the position. I just don't think the Raiders will break bank for a big name.


The two guys that meet both old teams and teams in playoffs would be Hill and Robiskie.

Personally I think he is hoping for Carmichael and it aint going to happen.

Kromer, Mularky, Hill, Robiskie are runner ups.

I really like the idea of Karl Dorrel though.


QB coach of Houston? No thanks. Too soon for that IMO. Tried that w/ Knapp. I'm all for staying away from the Houston style offense with the talent the Raiders have.


Basically McFadden it sounds like. The OL needed time to gel in a ZBS. They might've gotten there with time and better coaching. Seriously, even this year with better playcalling the offense would have been infinitely better. I'm not advocating a specific scheme but I really think Knapp was the biggest problem. McFadden is the only one who really doesn't fit a ZBS.
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big_palooka wrote:
TiberiusRising wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Whomever they have their eye on is likely coaching this weekend.

Allen has ties w/ Denver's staff and Atlanta's in some respect.

Reggie has ties to GB.

My guess is we see a relatively new name at the position. I just don't think the Raiders will break bank for a big name.


The two guys that meet both old teams and teams in playoffs would be Hill and Robiskie.

Personally I think he is hoping for Carmichael and it aint going to happen.

Kromer, Mularky, Hill, Robiskie are runner ups.

I really like the idea of Karl Dorrel though.


QB coach of Houston? No thanks. Too soon for that IMO. Tried that w/ Knapp. I'm all for staying away from the Houston style offense with the talent the Raiders have.

He isnt tied to ZBS/Houston's system. I like him because he is a good coach. He was UCLA's HC during the Jones-Drew/M. Lewis era. Brought that team back to relevance and helped curb off field issues.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
TiberiusRising wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Whomever they have their eye on is likely coaching this weekend.

Allen has ties w/ Denver's staff and Atlanta's in some respect.

Reggie has ties to GB.

My guess is we see a relatively new name at the position. I just don't think the Raiders will break bank for a big name.


The two guys that meet both old teams and teams in playoffs would be Hill and Robiskie.

Personally I think he is hoping for Carmichael and it aint going to happen.

Kromer, Mularky, Hill, Robiskie are runner ups.

I really like the idea of Karl Dorrel though.


QB coach of Houston? No thanks. Too soon for that IMO. Tried that w/ Knapp. I'm all for staying away from the Houston style offense with the talent the Raiders have.


Basically McFadden it sounds like. The OL needed time to gel in a ZBS. They might've gotten there with time and better coaching. Seriously, even this year with better playcalling the offense would have been infinitely better. I'm not advocating a specific scheme but I really think Knapp was the biggest problem. McFadden is the only one who really doesn't fit a ZBS.


I agree and disagree. At times the players didn't execute. Missed blocks upfront and too many dropped balls. Needs an influx of talent.
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