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textaz03
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 Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject: Johnny Manziel wins Heisman |
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Are you kidding me!! Johnny Football just won the Heisman Trophy!!
Ugh!! SMH!!!!
He is the first Freshman to win the award.
I really wanted Te'o to win it!!
Manziel totaled 474 first place votes, Te’o had 321 and Klein had 60. Manziel also won five of the six voting regions, notably winning the midwest and southeast regions.
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Texas_OutLaw7
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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He's not a true Freshman, he's a Red-shirt freshman.
I thought Te'o was also deserving - overall I thought this was a weak class. Although only missing two tackles all year is amazing.
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textaz03
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, my mistake, fixed
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| Texas_OutLaw7 wrote: | He's not a true Freshman, he's a Red-shirt freshman.
I thought Te'o was also deserving - overall I thought this was a weak class. Although only missing two tackles all year is amazing. |
I have been going back and forth for weeks on whether the Heisman should go to Manziel or Collin Klein.
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As solid as Te'o has been, he didn't deserve the Heisman. He was a very solid player, but his play wasn't more dominant than guys like Suh, Willis, or many other high profile defensive players. In fact, I'd argue that Jarvis Jones and Marqise Lee were far and away more deserving than ANY of the finalists this year, but the losses on their respective teams prevented anyone from paying close attention.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| plan9misfit wrote: | | As solid as Te'o has been, he didn't deserve the Heisman. He was a very solid player, but his play wasn't more dominant than guys like Suh, Willis, or many other high profile defensive players. In fact, I'd argue that Jarvis Jones and Marqise Lee were far and away more deserving than ANY of the finalists this year, but the losses on their respective teams prevented anyone from paying close attention. |
I'd add Jadeveon Clowney to that group.
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| green24 wrote: | | plan9misfit wrote: | | As solid as Te'o has been, he didn't deserve the Heisman. He was a very solid player, but his play wasn't more dominant than guys like Suh, Willis, or many other high profile defensive players. In fact, I'd argue that Jarvis Jones and Marqise Lee were far and away more deserving than ANY of the finalists this year, but the losses on their respective teams prevented anyone from paying close attention. |
I'd add Jadeveon Clowney to that group. |
+1 for both of you guys.
Teo was probably the 3rd best player on his own defense this season tbh. Nix and Tuitt played better than he did...
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I think we should give the kid the credit he deserves rather than diminishing his accomplishment.
He did have a better year than 2 former Heisman winners (Tebow, Newton)
He stepped up in the biggest game of the year, and showed he deserved the Trophy rather than folding like Barkley, Smith, and Klein.
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Manziel had 300 more yards than Cam did the year he won the Heisman......in two less games.
And he beat Bama.
Thats enough for me.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| WareWolf94 wrote: | Manziel had 300 more yards than Cam did the year he won the Heisman......in two less games.
And he beat Bama.
Thats enough for me. |
Agreed. I was amazed by him when he played Arkansas. It was the first time I had seen him play and I was really impressed. Doing what he did and doing it in the SEC is better than anything anyone else did this year.
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LOL does anyone else see Eric Crouch?? Great athlete playing in a system built around his talents. Statistically he is very impressive but im not ready to jump on the bandwagon
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| flyingmonkey30 wrote: | | GeorgiaBoy367 wrote: | | LOL does anyone else see Eric Crouch?? Great athlete playing in a system built around his talents. Statistically he is very impressive but im not ready to jump on the bandwagon |
In short, yes. He isn't going to be a good NFL player |
Agreed. I don't think he'll have a good pro career. But at the college level, he is very damn good and that's what the Heisman is all about.
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Christ, the myth of him playing better than Tebow and Newton is unreal how much ESPN has manipulated this.
Johnny Football - while exciting to watch, absolutely crapped the bed against UF and LSU.
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