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Dboys88-82
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Not sure if the story is wrong or not but this says they got in another argument after todays win.
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/250766/ratliff-jerry-jones-have-volcanic-exchange
| Quote: | CBS Dallas reports that Cowboys NT Jay Ratliff and owner Jerry Jones had a "volcanic" exchange following Sunday's win over the Bengals, regarding Ratliff's seventh missed game this season.
Ratliff has missed action with foot, groin, and ankle injuries this season. Per CBS Dallas, Jones told Ratliff, "We need you" in the locker room after the win, and the notoriously irascible Ratliff responded by going jaw-to-jaw with the owner in a heated exchange. “They’re both passionate men and great men and they want to win, that’s all it is," one source said. “But they were in each other’s faces. People had to intervene." Ratliff's backup is Josh Brent, who was obviously unavailable for the game after allegedly contributing to the death of practice squad player Jerry Brown on Saturday. |
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Texas_OutLaw7
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Me thinks Roto got it wrong. Unless the EXACT same thing happened again. With the same phrases.
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Love what Rat has done and meant to this team, but what a stupid move. Sutpid to the point of unbelievable. Injuried, aging vet...salary cap strapped team....and he gives them an easy out. Which in all honesty, they should take and not look back.
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Dboys88-82
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Texas_OutLaw7 wrote: | | Me thinks Roto got it wrong. Unless the EXACT same thing happened again. With the same phrases. |
kind of what im thinkin too. |
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This adds more fuel to my thoughts/hopes about that we will trade him at the draft. Would LOVE that.
- A shame that Brent looks to be going into jail.. Anyone knows what punishment you usually get for something like that?
I know that a lot of you would like to see Brent cut, I wouldn't if he can play next year. If he seems like he is mentally in a good place where he focusses on football and his life instead of feeling bad for him self and completely fall apart, then there's no reason to believe that this incident will make him work even harder then ever before and staying away from alcohol.
I'm done with Ratliff. Get his sorry [inappropriate/removed] out of here! |
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GeneralDissaray
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| If I didn't think it would be doing a huge favor for Ratliff, I would say cut him right now. If he were playing, I wonder if Jerry would go bounty gate on one of his own players? Lets get Charles Haley and Ratliff in a room. |
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Texas_OutLaw7
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Jerry confirmed it did happen. Mentioned letting the emotions of the game getting to both of them. Spoke passionately and positively about Rat, and said he is doubtful this week.
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Both people were out of line here. Jerry should not be walking around pushing the buttons of the players because he is indirectly emasculating his coaching staff by inserting himself in positions and roles which they are hired and paid to fill, and Ratliff should not have said what he said because it was insubordinate and terribly inappropriate.
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| DKDALfan wrote: | This adds more fuel to my thoughts/hopes about that we will trade him at the draft. Would LOVE that.
- A shame that Brent looks to be going into jail.. Anyone knows what punishment you usually get for something like that?
I know that a lot of you would like to see Brent cut, I wouldn't if he can play next year. If he seems like he is mentally in a good place where he focusses on football and his life instead of feeling bad for him self and completely fall apart, then there's no reason to believe that this incident will make him work even harder then ever before and staying away from alcohol.
I'm done with Ratliff. Get his sorry [inappropriate/removed] out of here! |
Many 1st time DUI manslaughter offenders get probation and community service. But this is Brent's second DUI. that is going to severly hurt his chances of probation and no jail time.. I think he's looking at 2 years minimum. Depending on the backlog, his court date could take a year so conceivable he could remain on the team and play next season. I am just not sure how much the Cowboys want to invest in him now.. I guess we will find out soon enough. |
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| Thanks for the knowledge, mco65, |
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plan9misfit
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| mco65 wrote: | | DKDALfan wrote: | This adds more fuel to my thoughts/hopes about that we will trade him at the draft. Would LOVE that.
- A shame that Brent looks to be going into jail.. Anyone knows what punishment you usually get for something like that?
I know that a lot of you would like to see Brent cut, I wouldn't if he can play next year. If he seems like he is mentally in a good place where he focusses on football and his life instead of feeling bad for him self and completely fall apart, then there's no reason to believe that this incident will make him work even harder then ever before and staying away from alcohol.
I'm done with Ratliff. Get his sorry [inappropriate/removed] out of here! |
Many 1st time DUI manslaughter offenders get probation and community service. But this is Brent's second DUI. that is going to severly hurt his chances of probation and no jail time.. I think he's looking at 2 years minimum. Depending on the backlog, his court date could take a year so conceivable he could remain on the team and play next season. I am just not sure how much the Cowboys want to invest in him now.. I guess we will find out soon enough. |
He's going to jail. He served 60 days the first time he was popped for a DUI, so I'd seriously doubt that he'd serve less time on a second offense, especially since it also resulted in the death of a passenger.
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| plan9misfit wrote: | | mco65 wrote: | | DKDALfan wrote: | This adds more fuel to my thoughts/hopes about that we will trade him at the draft. Would LOVE that.
- A shame that Brent looks to be going into jail.. Anyone knows what punishment you usually get for something like that?
I know that a lot of you would like to see Brent cut, I wouldn't if he can play next year. If he seems like he is mentally in a good place where he focusses on football and his life instead of feeling bad for him self and completely fall apart, then there's no reason to believe that this incident will make him work even harder then ever before and staying away from alcohol.
I'm done with Ratliff. Get his sorry [inappropriate/removed] out of here! |
Many 1st time DUI manslaughter offenders get probation and community service. But this is Brent's second DUI. that is going to severly hurt his chances of probation and no jail time.. I think he's looking at 2 years minimum. Depending on the backlog, his court date could take a year so conceivable he could remain on the team and play next season. I am just not sure how much the Cowboys want to invest in him now.. I guess we will find out soon enough. |
He's going to jail. He served 60 days the first time he was popped for a DUI, so I'd seriously doubt that he'd serve less time on a second offense, especially since it also resulted in the death of a passenger. |
Stallworth was charged with DUI manslaughter on April 1, 2009; he surrendered to police on April 2, 2009, and was released on $200,000 bail.[23] As a result of a plea deal, he received a sentence of 30 days in the county jail, plus 1,000 hours of community service, 2 years of community control, and 8 years probation.[24] He has also received a life-time suspension of his Florida state driver's license.[25]
On July 10, 2009, Stallworth was released from county jail after serving 24 days of a 30-day sentence
Just some insight on what Stallworth got in Florida.
Yes, he will prolly get jail time for this one ( he only got 30 days last time) but I bet he got himself a high price attorney this time so dont be surprise if he somehows gets out ofthis with very little punishment |
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plan9misfit
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| PincheJimmy wrote: | | plan9misfit wrote: | | mco65 wrote: | | DKDALfan wrote: | This adds more fuel to my thoughts/hopes about that we will trade him at the draft. Would LOVE that.
- A shame that Brent looks to be going into jail.. Anyone knows what punishment you usually get for something like that?
I know that a lot of you would like to see Brent cut, I wouldn't if he can play next year. If he seems like he is mentally in a good place where he focusses on football and his life instead of feeling bad for him self and completely fall apart, then there's no reason to believe that this incident will make him work even harder then ever before and staying away from alcohol.
I'm done with Ratliff. Get his sorry [inappropriate/removed] out of here! |
Many 1st time DUI manslaughter offenders get probation and community service. But this is Brent's second DUI. that is going to severly hurt his chances of probation and no jail time.. I think he's looking at 2 years minimum. Depending on the backlog, his court date could take a year so conceivable he could remain on the team and play next season. I am just not sure how much the Cowboys want to invest in him now.. I guess we will find out soon enough. |
He's going to jail. He served 60 days the first time he was popped for a DUI, so I'd seriously doubt that he'd serve less time on a second offense, especially since it also resulted in the death of a passenger. |
Stallworth was charged with DUI manslaughter on April 1, 2009; he surrendered to police on April 2, 2009, and was released on $200,000 bail.[23] As a result of a plea deal, he received a sentence of 30 days in the county jail, plus 1,000 hours of community service, 2 years of community control, and 8 years probation.[24] He has also received a life-time suspension of his Florida state driver's license.[25]
On July 10, 2009, Stallworth was released from county jail after serving 24 days of a 30-day sentence
Just some insight on what Stallworth got in Florida.
Yes, he will prolly get jail time for this one ( he only got 30 days last time) but I bet he got himself a high price attorney this time so dont be surprise if he somehows gets out ofthis with very little punishment |
Very true Jimmy, but that also was Stallworth's first offense. This is Brent's second. The courts are usually tougher on second offenses. I'm not saying that he's going to spend the rest of his life in a cell, but he will see some time behind bars considering he served 60 days in jail the first time, and that was without any injuries - let alone deaths - to anyone.
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