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IDOG_det
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I have a guess. Durant. Durants probably upset at Suh because he played too deep of a coverage on the winning TD and Suh wasn't there in his lane to save his mistake.
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| 38andy38 wrote: | Doesn't come across as brusque as Dom normally does. IMO if Raiola had something to say about Suh or anyone else it wouldn't be anonymous.
My best guess would be someone who lines up with Suh on the D line or right behind him. KVB or Tulloch maybe, sounds to me like a guy that has been on multiple teams. |
Given the player stated, we have a few guys who don't know what it takes to win, it would, I think have to be a veteran who has played on a winning team.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| Dime to donuts it was the now ex Lion Erik Coleman. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| diehardlionfan wrote: | | 38andy38 wrote: | Doesn't come across as brusque as Dom normally does. IMO if Raiola had something to say about Suh or anyone else it wouldn't be anonymous.
My best guess would be someone who lines up with Suh on the D line or right behind him. KVB or Tulloch maybe, sounds to me like a guy that has been on multiple teams. |
Given the player stated, we have a few guys who don't know what it takes to win, it would, I think have to be a veteran who has played on a winning team. |
I bet every professional player thinks they know what it takes to win.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| Nnivolcm wrote: | | diehardlionfan wrote: | | 38andy38 wrote: | Doesn't come across as brusque as Dom normally does. IMO if Raiola had something to say about Suh or anyone else it wouldn't be anonymous.
My best guess would be someone who lines up with Suh on the D line or right behind him. KVB or Tulloch maybe, sounds to me like a guy that has been on multiple teams. |
Given the player stated, we have a few guys who don't know what it takes to win, it would, I think have to be a veteran who has played on a winning team. |
I bet every professional player thinks they know what it takes to win. |
The emphasis in part of the quote regarding effort and quantifying it with percentages made me think of KVB since that's how he is described - "110% effort" etc
Realistically I believe he knows this is it for him in Detroit, it wouldn't surprise me to see him pull the plug and this, even though its being taken very negatively, could be the last effort made at making a difference for this team. It could go either way and really screw this team up....or it could be the lightbulb moment.
I wouldn't be surprised if Schwartz knew this was coming.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:54 am Post subject: Re: Anonymous Lion calls out Suh |
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| JSMcTilty wrote: | | ManeLine wrote: | http://www.freep.com/article/20121206/SPORTS01/121206094/Ndamukong-Suh-detroit-lions?odyssey=tab
| Quote: | He’s come under fire from anonymous general managers and identifiable opponents, and now Detroit Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh is catching flak from an unnamed teammate.
After Sunday’s 35-33 loss to the Indianapolis Colts, one Lions player told Yahoo Sports that Suh and others “don’t understand what it takes to win.”
“Yeah, we're loaded," the unnamed player told Yahoo. "But we have a couple of guys who don't understand what it takes to win. Just making a couple of plays and thinking that makes you great … sometimes you want to just shake some of these guys and say, 'Don't you get it?' "
Asked who in particular fell into that category, the player said, “Ndamukong would be first.”
In some ways, Suh played his best games of the season against the Colts. He sacked Andrew Luck on Indianapolis' first play, made six tackles, including four for loss, and hit Luck six more times.
But he also got out of his rush lane on the game’s final play, when Luck stepped up in the pocket and hit Donnie Avery for a game-winning 14-yard touchdown as time expired.
“He's focused for 90 percent of the time," an anonymous teammate told Yahoo. "But it's the 10 percent that kills you. … With (Suh), he loses his cool and all of a sudden we're blowing a play or dealing with some controversy.”
Suh has been at the center of plenty of controversy in his three-year NFL career.
After an all-pro rookie season, he was suspended two games last year for stomping on the arm of Green Bay Packers offensive lineman Evan Dietrich-Smith. Last month he was fined $30,000 for kicking Houston Texans quarterback Matt Schaub in the groin on Thanksgiving. And earlier this year, an anonymous general manager ripped him as belonging on the "all-hype team" to Pro Football Weekly.
On Sunday, Colts offensive lineman Mike McGlynn accused Suh of taunting Winston Justice after he blocked Justice during an interception return and gave the lineman a concussion.
Suh said Wednesday he was celebrating the interception and insisted “I’m the type of player that would never celebrate anybody being hurt.” Replays showed Suh delivered a clean block on Justice and did not capture the celebration.
Still, the unnamed Lion who spoke to Yahoo blamed Suh’s behavior for some of what has ailed the team during its disappointing 4-8 season.
“When stars act like that, everybody else thinks it's OK to act like that," the player said. "It's like with kids. You let one get a little out of control, the other one does the same thing pretty quick. It's human nature.” |
Even a teammate is calling him out now. I wish the player who said this wouldn't hide and would man up.
What do you guys think about this? Any guesses who would say something like this? My first guess would be Dom. |
Don't think it was Dom either, it wouldn't be anonymous. Chris Houston said almost the same thing about guys letting up at the end, thinking they thought the game was already over. He didn't mention Suh by name though. So maybe him? I hope not though b/c I like the guy lol. |
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Houston, or even Corey Williams. They both had even made similar comments about the team thinking games were over in 2010 before the 4 game win streak. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| my guess is eric coleman |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:43 am Post subject: |
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I'd say it was Durant or Levy, but the guys that guessed Coleman, that's also a very good guess.
Looks like Schwartz is losing the locker room, once that happens he is done.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:08 am Post subject: |
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To be honest, I dont think Suh was as far out of position on that play as Avril was. I think the hole was created due to Avril running straight up the field to the 25 yard line. That gave Luck as much room as he needed.
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What are the chances it's from the offensive side of the ball? For some reason, I can imagine Burleson saying those words, but I don't think he'd go to the media with a comment like that.
It's a shame that this happened.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| TL-TwoWinsAway wrote: | What are the chances it's from the offensive side of the ball? For some reason, I can imagine Burleson saying those words, but I don't think he'd go to the media with a comment like that.
It's a shame that this happened. |
I thought offense too. I was thinking Scheffler, Osgood or someone like that. Maybe Kevin Smith. Someone who isn't a big part of on field play is my guess. Anyone on the field likely wouldn't say these things or at least not anonymously. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| As the season rolls on I'm seriously thinking theres some propaganda going on against Suh through the media an maybe our organization. Seems like he won't be around here for 2013. Just a gut feeling, nothing to back it up. |
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EhJae
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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PFT also stated in the article that it was an anonymous Lions coaching staff member, not player.
This stuff doesn't add up. With it being anonymous, who's to say that it is even a current member of the team? Maybe the anonymous GM and anonymous Lion are the same anonymous person. I don't care to look that much into it but when the anonymous GM and anonymous Lion member articles came out, we're they written by the same writer?
This anonymous stuff is ridiculous. This irritates me more than how our season has turned out so far. |
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TL-TwoWinsAway
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Sllim Pickens wrote: | | TL-TwoWinsAway wrote: | What are the chances it's from the offensive side of the ball? For some reason, I can imagine Burleson saying those words, but I don't think he'd go to the media with a comment like that.
It's a shame that this happened. |
I thought offense too. I was thinking Scheffler, Osgood or someone like that. Maybe Kevin Smith. Someone who isn't a big part of on field play is my guess. Anyone on the field likely wouldn't say these things or at least not anonymously. |
Interesting. Osgood is... intriguing. Someone new enough to not 'care' about keeping things in house, 'good' enough at his role to think he should open his mouth, ignorant enough about the defense to think Suh made a mistake, and with experiences elsewhere to base his opinion off of.
That's my vote.
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