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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:52 pm    Post subject: Remixxxxxxx offseason overhaul v3 Reply with quote

COACHING CHANGES

*After finishing 3-13 Andy Reid is relieved of his position as head football coach of the Philadelphia Eagle - the majority of the coaching staff is released.

Jack Del Rio, Head Coach
Wikipedia wrote:
Del Rio began his coaching career with the New Orleans Saints in 1997 as their strength and conditioning coach. In 1999, he accepted a position with the Baltimore Ravens as the linebackers' coach. He is in part credited for the success of the Ravens' defense, particularly in the 2000 season. After the 2001 season, he was named defensive coordinator of the Carolina Panthers and in his first season, in 2002, he led them to the second best defense in the league.


Ken Whisenhunt, Offensive Coordinator
Wikipedia wrote:
current head coach of the Arizona Cardinals NFL football team, leading them to the first Super Bowl in franchise history during the 2008 season. Previously, he was known for his well engineered offensive plays, including the success he had with the Pittsburgh Steelers in his 3 years as their offensive coordinator under Bill Cowher and winning Super Bowl XL during the 2005 season.


Todd Bowles, Defensive Coordinator
Wikipedia wrote:
is an American football Defensive Coordinator for the Philadelphia Eagles of the National Football League (NFL). He played eight seasons in the NFL as a safety, mainly for the Washington Redskins, and started in Super Bowl XXII. He was the defensive backs coach for the New York Jets in 2000, Cleveland Browns from 2001 to 2004.


George Warhop, Offensive Line
Wikipedia wrote:
Warhop was named the co-offensive line coach for the St. Louis Rams on February 8, 1996.[9] In the 1997 NFL Draft the Rams took offensive tackle Orlando Pace with the first overall selection. Pace held out of training camp for three weeks to get a bigger contract, and Warhop was angry, stating that Pace "lost a good part of the year." In an attempt to speed up the playbook-learning process, Warhop was assigned as a special tutor for Pace.


Brick Haley, Defensive Line
Wikipedia wrote:
Prior to his current tenure at LSU, Haley was the Defensive line coach of the Chicago Bears of the NFL. In two years in the NFL with the Bears, Haley coached a defensive line that helped Chicago rank No. 5 in the league in rushing yards allowed per game in 2008. The Bears finished sixth in the NFL in sacks in 2007 with defensive tackle Tommie Harris earning a spot in the Pro Bowl that year.


Corey Raymond, Defensive Back
Wikipedia wrote:
is the LSU football defensive backs coach.[1] Raymond was also the secondaries coach for the University of Nebraska Cornhuskers football team.


Warren Belin, Linebackers
panthers.com wrote:
Belin joined the Panthers after gaining 20 years of experience as a college coach. The veteran assistant came to Carolina following a one-year stint at Georgia and an eight-year tenure at Vanderbilt.

Working with the inside linebackers in his only season at Georgia in 2010, Belin mentored linebacker Akeem Dent, who led the team and ranked second in the Southeastern Conference with 126 tackles. Dent, an All-SEC second-team choice, was drafted by the Atlanta Falcons in the third round of the 2011 NFL Draft. Additionally, Belin handled the Bulldogs' kickoff coverage unit, which ranked first in the conference


PLAYERS RELEASED/NOT RE-SIGNED

Mike Vick, QB
Queen Duncrap, OT
Jake Scott, OG
Nate Menkin, OT
Greg Salas, WR
Marvin McNutt, WR
Colt Anderson, S
D. Bell, OT
Dave Simms, S
Dion Lewis, RB
Brandon Hughes, CB
Colt Anderson, S
Daryl Tapp, DE
Jason Babin, DE


PLAYERS TRADED

Cullen Jenkins -> Atlanta Falcons, fifth round selection
Nnamdi Asomugah[restructure] -> Baltimore Ravens, fourth round selection, conditional '14 pick.


FREE AGENCY

Trace Porter, CB; 2 year deal
Wikipedia wrote:
is an American football cornerback for the Denver Broncos of the National Football League. He was drafted by the New Orleans Saints in the second round of the 2008 NFL Draft. He played college football at Indiana.


Joseph Barksdale, OT; 1 year deal
Wikipedia wrote:
is an American football offensive tackle for the St. Louis Rams of the National Football League. Barksdale was regarded as one of the better offensive tackle prospects of his class.


Ramon Foster, OG; 1 year deal
Wikipedia wrote:
Foster was signed by the Steelers as an undrafted free agent on April 27, 2009[2] after he went undrafted in the 2009 NFL Draft. Foster earned the top backup guard position on the line, with his first NFL start against the Baltimore Ravens on November 29, 2009, starting in place of the injured Chris Kemoeatu, having replaced him mid-game during the team's loss to the Kansas City Chiefs the week before.[3] Foster made his second start on December 20, 2009 in a game against the Green Bay Packers, also due to an injury to Kemoeatu.


Louis Delmas, FS; 5 year deal
Wikipedia wrote:
Delmas was considered by some to be a top-10 prospect at his position in the 2009 NFL Draft.[3] Prior to the draft, ESPN's Todd McShay said Delmas had a chance to get drafted in the first three rounds.[4] Delmas was drafted 1st in the second round by the Detroit Lions (33rd overall). Delmas was named the 2009 Detroit Lions Rookie of the Year in voting by the Detroit Sports Broadcasters Association.


Sedrick Ellis, DT; 2 year deal
Wikipedia wrote:
is an American football defensive tackle for the New Orleans Saints of the National Football League (NFL). He played college football for the University of Southern California, and earned All-American honors. He was drafted by the New Orleans Saints seventh overall in the 2008 NFL Draft.


Phillip Wheeler, WLB; 1 year deal
Wikipedia wrote:
is an American football linebacker for the Oakland Raiders of the National Football League. He was drafted by the Indianapolis Colts in the third round of the 2008 NFL Draft.


PLAYERS RE-SIGNED

Jason Peters, OT[paycut]
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB; 5 year, 40M deal


NFL DRAFT

1.9 // Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M University
WalterFootball wrote:
There is a lot to like about Matthews, and he is still developing. The first things that jump out about Matthews are his quickness and athleticism. Unlike many right tackles, Matthews has light feet and a nice burst out of his stance. This allows him to fire into run blocks on his lineman or to the second level of the defense. It also helps tackle to shuffle and mirror pass-rushers before they gain leverage around the edge.




Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
WalterFootball wrote:
Eifert is a dangerous receiver. He runs good routes and has excellent hands. Eifert makes tough catches in the middle of the field and has demonstrated the ability to withstand big hits. Rees hung him out to dry numerous times, but Eifert showed durability by playing every game last season even though he took some shots from safeties. The big tight end is superb at working the middle seam of the defense and really exploits the bubble between linebackers and safeties.



2.9 // Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
nfldraftscout.com wrote:
Patterson is one of the best pure athletes in the SEC. His route running needs some development, but the Vols are finding ways to get him the ball in space, and it's paying off. Against Mississippi State on Saturday, he scored on a 97-yard kickoff return, caught a TD pass and rushed for 57 yards on three carries. Season stats (six games): 23 receptions for 315 yards, 3 TDs; 11 rushes for 214 yards, 2 TDs; Kickoff return for a TD. Player ranking: Patterson is ranked as the No. 48 prospect overall and is the sixth-best WR in CBSSports.com's latest player rankings.




3.2 // Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
WalterFootball.com wrote:
Trufant has a skill set for the NFL. Assuming his listed measurements are accurate, he has good height and length to be a starting cornerback in the NFL. Trufant has nice quickness and agility to be a man cover corner. He is very solid in run defense, too; having nice technique and no hesitation to get in on tackles.




4.2 // Alvin Bailey, OG, Arkansas
nfldraftscout.com wrote:
A naturally massive man, Bailey shows impressive quickness off the snap and can knock defenders off the ball in the running game. He's athletic enough to handle blocking on the move - a requirement in an Arkansas scheme that often requires the guards to pull and block at the second level. While quick enough to get out in space, Bailey struggles to re-direct if the defenders sees him coming and often is forced to lunge at his opponent, resulting in some impressive knock-down blocks but also an occasional miss.




4.28 // Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina
nationalfootballpost.com wrote:
There is little question that Taylor looks the part of an NFL player “on the hoof” at over 6’6, with a muscular physique and long arms. However, the issue is that he is a “tweener” and does not play aggressively on a consistent basis, both of which have limited his production.




5.2 // Brad Sorensen, QB, Southern Utah
draftbreakdown.com wrote:
With matchups against top sub-FBS programs like Montana and Montana State, Sorensen is going to have several chances to wow NFL scouts with his phenomenal field vision and big arm. He also possesses noteworthy accuracy and prototypical size for an NFL quarterback.





6.2 // Marquees Wilson, WR, Washington State
WalterFootball.com wrote:
Wilson is a big receiver who has outstanding hands and body control. He has good concentration that allows him to make a lot of tough catches over defensive backs. Wilson fights for the ball and is quite familiar with making contested catches. He uses his height to his advantage and is a good red-zone weapon.




6.19 // Ray Ray Armstrong, S, Faulkner State



7.15 // Patrick Lewis, C, Texas A&M
nfldraftscout.com wrote:
With 38 consecutive starts under his belt, Lewis, from Reserve, La., is the most experienced player on either side of football as the Aggies enter the Southeastern Conference under first-year Texas A&M head coach Kevin Sumlin. Lewis was an honorable mention All-Big 12 selection the past three seasons - as a guard in 2009 and 2010 and as a center in 2011.




QB - Nick Foles, Trent Edwards, Brad Sorenson
RB - LeSean McCoy, Bryce Brown, Dion Lewis
FB - Stanley Havilli
WR - DeSean Jackson, Riley Cooper
WR - Cordarrelle Patterson, Marquees Wilson
WR - Jeremy Maclin, Damarius Johnson
TE - Tyler Eifert, Brent Celek
OT - Jake Matthews, Joseph Barksdale
OG - Todd Herremans, Alvin Bailey
C - Patrick Lewis
OG - Ramon Foster, Danny Wastekins
OT - Jason Peters, Dennis Kelly

DE - Trent Cole, Vinny Curry
DT - Sedrick Ellis, Mike Patterson
DT - Fletcher Cox, Cedric Thornton
DE - Brandon Graham, Phillip Hunt, Devin Taylor
WLB - Phillip Wheeler, Akeem Jordan
MLB - DeMeco Ryan, Casey Matthews
SLB - Mychal Kendricks, Jamar Chaney
CB - Tracy Porter, Desmond Trufant
CB - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Curtis Marsh
CB - Brandon Boykin
S - Louis Delmas, Kurt Coleman
S - Nate Allen, Ray-Ray Armstrong

1.8[Philadelphia, 14'] // Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame
1.16[Buffalo, 14'] // Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State
2.8[Philadlephia 14']// Craig Loston, S, Louisiana State


*What does this mock draft accomplish?
- We're able to land some solid depth on the offensive line via free agency, with Barksdale and Foster.
- We're able to let Nnamdi go with the addition of Tracy Porter, who has played very well under Jack Del Rio in Denver. We're able to add a stud safety to pair in the secondary, and should see an immediate improvement.
- We're able to add a big bodies, albeit underacheving, nose tackle in Sedrick Ellis on a two year deal. He's going to a fantastic fit next to Fletcher Cox

- We're able to keep Jason Peters at a lower salary, and slide him back to a spot he's familiar with, right tackle.
- We lock Dominqiue Rodgers-Cromartie up with a deal similar to the deal Antonio Cromartie got. I know a lot of posters don't like Rodgers-Cromartie, and aren't inclined to bring him back, but we need him.
- We're able to move on from the scrabble debacle - his tenure in Philadelphia was underwhelming[IMO], and we ship him to a Super Bowl contending team in Baltimore, after a paycut.

- I believe we will end up with the chance to draft Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson[depending on your QB rankings] and we will pass - giving Buffalo the chance to move up and lockup their long term start, with a new regime taking over.
- We're able to land an absolute stud of an offensive tackle, he should be a mainstay on our offensive line for many years.
- We're able to massively upgrade not only the tight end spot, but immediatly upgrade our redzone offense with pick of Eifert.
- We're able to add two game changing wideouts in this draft - Patterson, who I'm hot and cold on. I think he has potential through the roof, but he needs to become more consistent. He's a threat to become a very good wideout, or the worst case would be a Robert Meachem type player[not comparing them]; and Wilson, who needs to pack on some pounds, but he can be a legitimate number one wide reciever, similar to the Mike Williams[TB] situation.
- We're able to add youth to our interior offensive line by drafting the massive Alvin Bailey, who could turn into a very physical, hard nose, knock you on your backside guard in the future; and one of my favorite centers in the draft, Patrick Lewis.
- We're able to add a developmental quarterback, and maybe someone I view higher then most in Sorenson - I've been paying close attention to Sorenson ever since someone in the Draft section was gloating about him. The kid looks, and plays the part of an NFL caliber quarterback. He needs to work on his accuracy, but he has a live arm, and has some tools to work with.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack Del Rio sucked in jacksonville don't see why he gets a second shot.


Todd Bowels has been the defensive coordinator for the least impressive stretch by a secondary in NFL history. Wouldn't give the guy a job in the nfl next year. He sucks.


Also I think you make a trade but you never tell us what the trade is.
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Jack Del Rio sucked in jacksonville don't see why he gets a second shot.


Todd Bowels has been the defensive coordinator for the least impressive stretch by a secondary in NFL history. Wouldn't give the guy a job in the nfl next year. He sucks.


Also I think you make a trade but you never tell us what the trade is.


I don't think calling Del Rio a failure in Jacksonville is fair. He was never given the assets, or given a competent GM. He had Baline Gabbert shoved in his face, and an awful drafting pattern from the GM. He did have some very succesful years in Jacksonville, though.

I agree about Bowels, 100% - but I believe our organization likes him as a coach, and will use the crap-9 as an excuse as to why he's struggled as a coordinator.
I never copied the trade over, good pickup

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#2 overall, 5th rounder[Atlanta] -> Buffalo Bills 1st[9], 2nd rounder, 14' first rounder.


What did you think of the other moves - free agents, cuts, draft?
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Jack Del Rio? And he keeps Todd Bowles? Oh heeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllll no.

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Meco wrote:
Jack Del Rio? And he keeps Todd Bowles? Oh heeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllll no.

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Remixxxxxxx wrote:
ninjapirate wrote:
Jack Del Rio sucked in jacksonville don't see why he gets a second shot.


Todd Bowels has been the defensive coordinator for the least impressive stretch by a secondary in NFL history. Wouldn't give the guy a job in the nfl next year. He sucks.


Also I think you make a trade but you never tell us what the trade is.


I don't think calling Del Rio a failure in Jacksonville is fair. He was never given the assets, or given a competent GM. He had Baline Gabbert shoved in his face, and an awful drafting pattern from the GM. He did have some very succesful years in Jacksonville, though.

I agree about Bowels, 100% - but I believe our organization likes him as a coach, and will use the crap-9 as an excuse as to why he's struggled as a coordinator.
I never copied the trade over, good pickup

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#2 overall, 5th rounder[Atlanta] -> Buffalo Bills 1st[9], 2nd rounder, 14' first rounder.


What did you think of the other moves - free agents, cuts, draft?



FA seems realistic. Some solids moves.


I like your approach in the draft, I for one am in favor of trading down as well.

Like making an effort to add offensive weapons this year and fixing the OL. If Nick Foles is the guy he should have a lot of success if he isn't and we falter we have a good situation for a rookie next year to come into.


My only real dislike is the coaching staff.
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Jack Del Rio? And he keeps Todd Bowles? Oh heeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllll no.

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Would like to get more feedback as opposed to this and a dog gif that doesn't even work.


It didn't even work? Dagnabbit.

Jack Del Rio was a complete and total failure in Jacksonville and he had more than enough time to build the franchise his way and it never went anywhere. And Todd Bowles is currently calling the worst pass defense in the history of the NFL and you have us keeping him. I'm not thrilled with that right off the bat.
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Beside Delmas there are very few things I like about this Mock draft.
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Jack Del Rio was a complete and total failure in Jacksonville and he had more than enough time to build the franchise his way and it never went anywhere. And Todd Bowles is currently calling the worst pass defense in the history of the NFL and you have us keeping him. I'm not thrilled with that right off the bat.


I think Del Rio's failures are a bit overstated; the Jaguars are a terribly run franchise, but I see the point.

Like I said about Bowles to ninjapirate - I don't like him either, but I do believe the organization likes him, and will use Jim Washburn as an excuse to try and keep him around.

I'd also like to say that if Mel Tucker doesn't take the Wisconsin job, I believe he'd be our next defensive coordinator, just a thought.


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Beside Delmas there are very few things I like about this Mock draft.


What don't you like(besides the coaching staff)?
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RainbowCarebear wrote:
Beside Delmas there are very few things I like about this Mock draft.


What don't you like(besides the coaching staff)?


The FA is lackluster, on review the draft is nice, but I'm sort of the draft a Moore or Star wagon right now
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The FA is lackluster,


I don't see how it's "lackluster". We're able to add a solid safety, cornerback, and defensive tackle; upgrade our WLB and OG spots, and get a young OT for some depth.

It's not as flashy as most, but I don't believe it do be lackluster. This team needs to be built through the draft, and that's the approach of this mock draft.
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I want Kendricks to be a Will, not Sam. Porter is solid, but the others I just don't like, but every one have their preferences. Wink
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I want no part of Jack Del Rio as HC. Bowles has ticket out of town as well. I'm not a fan of the staff in any way.

I think we're going to re-sign Scott, we're going to be young at QB next year, and we'll need to protect him. Also think Dunlap is a solid backup LT, 2 of his penalties and at least 2 of his sacks came at RT, when he's a LT. You can do worse as a backup LT.

I doubt Jenkins or Nnamdi have much trade value if at all. Its all but known they'll be cut, and that certainly means winning teams won't have to give up mid round picks (which could provide depth and in some cases starters) for aging declining players.

Our corners would be softer than wet flowers between Porter and DRC.

Delmas' body is breaking down and he's looking more and more like Bob Sanders and that scares the hell out of me, especially over a 5 year contract.

Sedrick Ellis stinks.

Wheeler is a solid football player.

Not a fan of Foster or Barksdale, both teams are pretty bad along the OL, Barksdale couldn't crack the lineup and Foster is pretty average at best. I would rather keep Dunlap.

I don't want an OT in the first, Peters and Herremans will be the tackles next year, they were highly successful in 2011 there. Herremans may have regressed, but playing next to Danny Watkins didn't help. If we re-sign Scott our interior is set as well with he Mathis and Kelce, and we are drafting for depth, which you don't do in the first round.

Really like the Eiffert pick. He's a stud.

While Patterson is a terrific athlete, his route running is bad and he has hands like a clock. There are better receivers avalible.

Meh on Trufaunt and Bailey

While Taylor is a terrific athlete, he's not that good of a football player and is a reach in the 4th.

I like Sorensen and Wilson.

Not a big Ray-Ray Armstrong guy at all.

Lewis is a solid depth 7th rounder.

I don't like it.
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Remixxxxxxx wrote:
Meco wrote:
Jack Del Rio? And he keeps Todd Bowles? Oh heeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllll no.

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Would like to get more feedback as opposed to this and a dog gif that doesn't even work.


It didn't even work? Dagnabbit.

Jack Del Rio was a complete and total failure in Jacksonville and he had more than enough time to build the franchise his way and it never went anywhere. And Todd Bowles is currently calling the worst pass defense in the history of the NFL and you have us keeping him. I'm not thrilled with that right off the bat.


To be fair, Jacksonville were a good team until Gene Smith got his grubby mits all over it. He's a bit like Howie Roseman in that regards.
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