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In 2010 - Did we have Superbowl Quality Talent?
Yes
12%
 12%  [ 1 ]
No
87%
 87%  [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 8

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Matts4313


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:13 pm    Post subject: A Review of the 2010 Roster - How talented were we? Reply with quote

Think of this as a part 2 of the Redball thread:


There was some interesting debate, but I think it has run its course. One highly debated topic was the fact that Wade Phillips had more success as HC than Jason Garrett. As I contended in that thread - I do not think that Jason Garrett inherited a talented team.

I contend that Garrett took over a team with some nice top end talent, but over the 4 years that Phillips was Head Coach, there was very little developed. We were left with the "star" guys that Bill Parcells had put on the roster, and developed, before he left in 2006.


***PLEASE NOTE - THESE RANKINGS ARE AS OF WHEN HE TOOK OVER THE TEAM IN 2010.. CLEARLY SOME PLAYERS HAVE DEVELOPED SINCE THEN***

Top End Talent:
90Ratliff, JayNT6
9Romo, TonyQB8
94Ware, DeMarcusOLB6
82Witten, JasonTE8
1McBriar, MatP7

Quality Starter:
19Austin, MilesWR5
88Bryant, DezWR0
21Jenkins, MikeCB3

Serviceable Contributor, Potential Starter:
68Free, DougOT4
97Hatcher, JasonDE5
96Spears, MarcusDE6
32Scandrick, OrlandoCB3
72Bowen, StephenDE5
43Sensabaugh, GeraldSS6
93Spencer, AnthonyOLB4
91LaDouceur, L.P.LS6
50Lee, SeanLB0


Possible Depth or Needs to be Cut (IE - Not starting Quality in 2010):

34Anderson, DeonFB4
20Ball, AlanFS3
24Barber, MarionRB6
73Barker, WillT0
71Barron, AlexT6
80Bennett, MartellusTE3
79Brewster, RobertOT2
60Bright, TravisG1
48Brock, KevinTE1
51Brooking, KeithILB13
18Buehler, DavidK2
57Butler, VictorLB2
23Choice, TashardRB3
42Church, BarrySS0
75Colombo, MarcT9
67Costa, PhilG0
84Crayton, PatrickWR7
70Davis, LeonardG10
92Dixon, MarcusDE1
31Donaldson, HerbRB1
26Gordon, CletisDB5
44Gronkowski, ChrisRB0
65Gurode, AndreC9
36Hamlin, MikeSAF2
55Hodge, StephenLB2
64Holland, MontraeG8
16Holley, JesseWR1
14Hudgins, TerrellWR0
17Hurd, SamWR5
56James, BradieILB8
15Johnson, ManuelWR1
98Johnson, CurtisLB3
28Jones, FelixRB3
3Kitna, JonQB14
63Kosier, KyleG9
69Lissemore, SeanDT0
37McCann, BryanDB0
40McCray, DannyDB0
7McGee, StephenQB2
77McQuistan, PatT5
35Miller, LonyaeRB0
41Newman, TerenceCB8
10Nichols, MattQB0
53Octavien, SteveLB2
85Ogletree, KevinWR2
99Olshansky, IgorDE7
27Owusu-Ansah, AkwasiDB0
89Phillips, JohnTE2
78Price-Brent, JoshDE0
83Ryan, TitusWR1
66Saddler-McQueen, JimmyDT0
54Sharpe, BrandonLB0
95Siavii, JuniorDT5
86Sicko, ScottTE0
62Tepper, MikeOT0
30Wall, JamarDB0
25Watkins, PatSS5
11Williams, Roy E.WR7
59Williams, BrandonLB2
29Williams, TeddyCB0
52Williams, LeonILB4
58Williams, JasonLB2
76Young, SamT0

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Dallas Cowboys 2010-2011 NFL Roster

#NamePositionExperience
34Anderson, DeonFB4
19Austin, MilesWR5
20Ball, AlanFS3
24Barber, MarionRB6
73Barker, WillT0
71Barron, AlexT6
80Bennett, MartellusTE3
72Bowen, StephenDE5
79Brewster, RobertOT2
60Bright, TravisG1
48Brock, KevinTE1
51Brooking, KeithILB13
88Bryant, DezWR0
18Buehler, DavidK2
57Butler, VictorLB2
23Choice, TashardRB3
42Church, BarrySS0
75Colombo, MarcT9
67Costa, PhilG0
84Crayton, PatrickWR7
70Davis, LeonardG10
92Dixon, MarcusDE1
31Donaldson, HerbRB1
68Free, DougOT4
26Gordon, CletisDB5
44Gronkowski, ChrisRB0
65Gurode, AndreC9
36Hamlin, MikeSAF2
97Hatcher, JasonDE5
55Hodge, StephenLB2
64Holland, MontraeG8
16Holley, JesseWR1
14Hudgins, TerrellWR0
17Hurd, SamWR5
56James, BradieILB8
21Jenkins, MikeCB3
15Johnson, ManuelWR1
98Johnson, CurtisLB3
28Jones, FelixRB3
3Kitna, JonQB14
63Kosier, KyleG9
91LaDouceur, L.P.LS6
50Lee, SeanLB0
69Lissemore, SeanDT0
1McBriar, MatP7
37McCann, BryanDB0
40McCray, DannyDB0
7McGee, StephenQB2
77McQuistan, PatT5
35Miller, LonyaeRB0
41Newman, TerenceCB8
10Nichols, MattQB0
53Octavien, SteveLB2
85Ogletree, KevinWR2
99Olshansky, IgorDE7
27Owusu-Ansah, AkwasiDB0
89Phillips, JohnTE2
78Price-Brent, JoshDE0
90Ratliff, JayNT6
9Romo, TonyQB8
83Ryan, TitusWR1
66Saddler-McQueen, JimmyDT0
32Scandrick, OrlandoCB3
43Sensabaugh, GeraldSS6
54Sharpe, BrandonLB0
95Siavii, JuniorDT5
86Sicko, ScottTE0
96Spears, MarcusDE6
93Spencer, AnthonyOLB4
62Tepper, MikeOT0
30Wall, JamarDB0
94Ware, DeMarcusOLB6
25Watkins, PatSS5
11Williams, Roy E.WR7
59Williams, BrandonLB2
29Williams, TeddyCB0
52Williams, LeonILB4
58Williams, JasonLB2
82Witten, JasonTE8
76Young, SamT0


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would anyone agree or disagree with my rankings? If you agree, that means that in 2010 - we had 7 quality starters (not on special teams). Which leaves 15 positions on the field that were either just serviceable, but in need of an upgrade.. Or in really bad shape.


Do you think you can have legitimate, continued, playoff success with ~65% of your roster needing to be upgraded?


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we are going what they were in 2010, then in my opinion I would move Sean Lee down to tier 3. There is no one here who would have put him above Dez for example and Dez is in tier 2.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matts4313 wrote:
Do you think you can have legitimate, continued, playoff success with ~65% of your roster needing to be upgraded?


Not likely
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

me227 wrote:
If we are going what they were in 2010, then in my opinion I would move Sean Lee down to tier 3. There is no one here who would have put him above Dez for example and Dez is in tier 2.


Very Happy - solid point. For some reason I had it in my mind that he became the starter that year. My bad!!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matts4313 wrote:
me227 wrote:
If we are going what they were in 2010, then in my opinion I would move Sean Lee down to tier 3. There is no one here who would have put him above Dez for example and Dez is in tier 2.


Very Happy - solid point. For some reason I had it in my mind that he became the starter that year. My bad!!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

superbowl talent? Id have to say no. Were the capable of making the playoffs? Yes.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
20Ball, AlanFS


Here we see a prime example of why this team failed.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ace - where you been?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harsh on James and Kosier (who weren't bad) and lenient on Jenkins (who was terrible). Otherwise, yeah, generally agree with those rankings.
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