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GOGRIESE


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BEARS24 wrote:
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Alright, whose jumping on the FIRE LOVIE SMITH train with me!? I'm done with this guy, he needs to be fired and head back to coach Texas in FBS where he belongs.

Sarcasm?

I'm never sure with you bro... Laughing

And I think GG built that train 4 years ago XD just with very few people on it...

Hell no bra, I can tell you only caught part of the game and then left to play video games! Lovie's coaching has become a detriment to this team. Your right, I should've joined Griese back in the day... I was the first to start the "Fire Lovie Smith, Hire Bill O'Brien", I'm sticking with that... Laughing


Lets just say I was close to joining Yourboyroy while he was protesting back in 2009 Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BEARS24 wrote:
pigsooie5 wrote:
BEARS24 wrote:
pigsooie5 wrote:
Alright, whose jumping on the FIRE LOVIE SMITH train with me!? I'm done with this guy, he needs to be fired and head back to coach Texas in FBS where he belongs.

Sarcasm?

I'm never sure with you bro... Laughing

And I think GG built that train 4 years ago XD just with very few people on it...

Hell no bra, I can tell you only caught part of the game and then left to play video games! Lovie's coaching has become a detriment to this team. Your right, I should've joined Griese back in the day... I was the first to start the "Fire Lovie Smith, Hire Bill O'Brien", I'm sticking with that... Laughing

All I want is change... it needs to happen sooner rather than later as well...


Fire sale.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BEARS24 wrote:
pigsooie5 wrote:
BEARS24 wrote:
pigsooie5 wrote:
Alright, whose jumping on the FIRE LOVIE SMITH train with me!? I'm done with this guy, he needs to be fired and head back to coach Texas in FBS where he belongs.

Sarcasm?

I'm never sure with you bro... Laughing

And I think GG built that train 4 years ago XD just with very few people on it...

Hell no bra, I can tell you only caught part of the game and then left to play video games! Lovie's coaching has become a detriment to this team. Your right, I should've joined Griese back in the day... I was the first to start the "Fire Lovie Smith, Hire Bill O'Brien", I'm sticking with that... Laughing

All I want is change... it needs to happen sooner rather than later as well...

Yeah man I agree. Windy said it the best, all anyone needs to hear is 1-5 to finish 2011, now in 2012 after starting 7-1, we go 8-6 if we lose to GB. I dont care what ANY of the other circumstances are, you deserve to be FIRED.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah man I agree. Windy said it the best, all anyone needs to hear is 1-5 to finish 2011, now in 2012 after starting 7-1, we go 8-6 if we lose to GB. I dont care what ANY of the other circumstances are, you deserve to be FIRED.[/quote]

I see your point here...but we knew we were going to be in for it after Cutler went down last year, so that 1-5 finish must have an asterik by it. This year, no excuse. 7-1 to start and now 1-4...this game was just frustrating to watch with all the drops. outgained them in yards but only 14 points? smh
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Melissa Isaacson ‏@mkisaacson
Bears 0-6 in Dec. last two yrs. under lovie smith (so far).
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Melissa Isaacson ‏@mkisaacson
Bears 0-6 in Dec. last two yrs. under lovie smith (so far).
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How about if we miss the playoffs we will have missed 5 of the last 6 years.

Jay missed last season, but what were the excuses for the other 4 years.
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did cutler get benched? why was campbell in
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did cutler get benched? why was campbell in

He hurt his neck, looks like he may be suffering from whiplash according to reports.
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did cutler get benched? why was campbell in

He hurt his neck, looks like he may be suffering from whiplash according to reports.


Or Lovie pulled him begged him to act hurt so he could save his job again.
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WindyCity wrote:
RidiculousJames wrote:
mozwanted wrote:
did cutler get benched? why was campbell in

He hurt his neck, looks like he may be suffering from whiplash according to reports.


Or Lovie pulled him begged him to act hurt so he could save his job again.
Remember when I said you overreact sometimes....... Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly Lovie isn't the entire problem it's the failure to find an offensive coordinator. Tice might be a decent oline coach, but that's it. The only difference between this offense and Martz's offense is that this offense has brandon marshall. If any coach deserves to be fired it's Tice, and the worse part is it will set cutler back at least 2 seasons so he can learn a new system and get used to it so effectively cheating him out of his prime.

The offensive line is garbage. Garza gets no push, carimi is soft, webb can't block wind, and our only decent olineman is hurt for the year. They need young talent on both sides of the ball and it's going to take years to build a playoff caliber team, and by then cutler might be gone and Lovie will definately be gone.

Don't want to sound pessimistic, but it's win this year or not at all this whole decade. All they need to do is win 2 more games to get into the postseason (yes, it's true) but if they continue to play like this I'll see you all in 2020 when the Bears might have actually accumalted the proper coaches and players to be competetive again
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Honestly Lovie isn't the entire problem it's the failure to find an offensive coordinator. Tice might be a decent oline coach, but that's it. The only difference between this offense and Martz's offense is that this offense has brandon marshall. If any coach deserves to be fired it's Tice, and the worse part is it will set cutler back at least 2 seasons so he can learn a new system and get used to it so effectively cheating him out of his prime.

The offensive line is garbage. Garza gets no push, carimi is soft, webb can't block wind, and our only decent olineman is hurt for the year. They need young talent on both sides of the ball and it's going to take years to build a playoff caliber team, and by then cutler might be gone and Lovie will definately be gone.

Don't want to sound pessimistic, but it's win this year or not at all this whole decade. All they need to do is win 2 more games to get into the postseason (yes, it's true) but if they continue to play like this I'll see you all in 2020 when the Bears might have actually accumalted the proper coaches and players to be competetive again


How many OCs does Lovie get to hire and fire before he loses his job?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WindyCity wrote:
VeniceBearsFan wrote:
Honestly Lovie isn't the entire problem it's the failure to find an offensive coordinator. Tice might be a decent oline coach, but that's it. The only difference between this offense and Martz's offense is that this offense has brandon marshall. If any coach deserves to be fired it's Tice, and the worse part is it will set cutler back at least 2 seasons so he can learn a new system and get used to it so effectively cheating him out of his prime.

The offensive line is garbage. Garza gets no push, carimi is soft, webb can't block wind, and our only decent olineman is hurt for the year. They need young talent on both sides of the ball and it's going to take years to build a playoff caliber team, and by then cutler might be gone and Lovie will definately be gone.

Don't want to sound pessimistic, but it's win this year or not at all this whole decade. All they need to do is win 2 more games to get into the postseason (yes, it's true) but if they continue to play like this I'll see you all in 2020 when the Bears might have actually accumalted the proper coaches and players to be competetive again


How many OCs does Lovie get to hire and fire before he loses his job?


If they don't turn it around smith probably will get fired, but his strength never was offense. And there may have been a few ocs, but we never had anybody good on offense (i.e no talent jerry angelo's fault) for an oc to work with. Now we have talent at the skill positions and the oc still can't draw up a good gameplan.

How many ocs have there been under Lovie's tenure? Ron Turner, Mike Martz, Mike Tice, who else? That's at least 3 the past 8 years.
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VeniceBearsFan wrote:
WindyCity wrote:
VeniceBearsFan wrote:
Honestly Lovie isn't the entire problem it's the failure to find an offensive coordinator. Tice might be a decent oline coach, but that's it. The only difference between this offense and Martz's offense is that this offense has brandon marshall. If any coach deserves to be fired it's Tice, and the worse part is it will set cutler back at least 2 seasons so he can learn a new system and get used to it so effectively cheating him out of his prime.

The offensive line is garbage. Garza gets no push, carimi is soft, webb can't block wind, and our only decent olineman is hurt for the year. They need young talent on both sides of the ball and it's going to take years to build a playoff caliber team, and by then cutler might be gone and Lovie will definately be gone.

Don't want to sound pessimistic, but it's win this year or not at all this whole decade. All they need to do is win 2 more games to get into the postseason (yes, it's true) but if they continue to play like this I'll see you all in 2020 when the Bears might have actually accumalted the proper coaches and players to be competetive again


How many OCs does Lovie get to hire and fire before he loses his job?


If they don't turn it around smith probably will get fired, but his strength never was offense. And there may have been a few ocs, but we never had anybody good on offense (i.e no talent jerry angelo's fault) for an oc to work with. Now we have talent at the skill positions and the oc still can't draw up a good gameplan.

How many ocs have there been under Lovie's tenure? Ron Turner, Mike Martz, Mike Tice, who else? That's at least 3 the past 8 years.


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Defense is fine but the Offensive is terrible and sorry but its Lovies job to correct it and he hasn't.

Yes the talent is terrible and a lot of that is JA fault but this is how the NFL works, Coaches get fired for missing the playoffs after a 7-1 start.

Now if we beat Green Bay things can definitely change, but I'm not holding my breathe we could only score 14 points on the Vikes who we usually do well against how many are we going to score against the Packers who have our number?!
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