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Silver&Black88


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raidin wrote:
bitty wrote:
Raidin wrote:
bitty wrote:
Can people stop with the zone blocking that experiment failed a long time ago. They Raiders are running a power blocking system more and more every week. They are more then 50% of the running plays now. Most of Reece and Stewart's good runs come from the power blocking scheme. Off-tackle runs to the left side or from the I formation.
They are even running more of a vertical passing offense than the WCO. You can tell by all the seam routes they are the running.



All of the big run plays against the Browns came in the ZBS.


You are so funny and no it was not.



Yea it was. Seriously, maybe you got confused and were watching another game?


Pretty sure I saw one PBS long run. But you're right, most were ZBS.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
Raidin wrote:
bitty wrote:
Raidin wrote:
bitty wrote:
Can people stop with the zone blocking that experiment failed a long time ago. They Raiders are running a power blocking system more and more every week. They are more then 50% of the running plays now. Most of Reece and Stewart's good runs come from the power blocking scheme. Off-tackle runs to the left side or from the I formation.
They are even running more of a vertical passing offense than the WCO. You can tell by all the seam routes they are the running.



All of the big run plays against the Browns came in the ZBS.


You are so funny and no it was not.



Yea it was. Seriously, maybe you got confused and were watching another game?


Pretty sure I saw one PBS long run. But you're right, most were ZBS.


Just look at tonight's game.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daineraider wrote:
Raidin wrote:
justwinbaby81 wrote:
Honestly though, it was pretty telling how almost everyone was all aboard the Gruden train for the last two days. That said more than any post I could write.



Pretty much everyone here wanted Jamarcus Russell.


Not true. I wanted nothing to do with him. I wanted Adrian Peterson that year.


Bingo
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daineraider wrote:
Raidin wrote:
justwinbaby81 wrote:
Honestly though, it was pretty telling how almost everyone was all aboard the Gruden train for the last two days. That said more than any post I could write.



Pretty much everyone here wanted Jamarcus Russell.


Not true. I wanted nothing to do with him. I wanted Adrian Peterson that year.


Calvin Johnson would've been nice as well......sigh

Missed opportunities
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cutblock wrote:
daineraider wrote:
Raidin wrote:
justwinbaby81 wrote:
Honestly though, it was pretty telling how almost everyone was all aboard the Gruden train for the last two days. That said more than any post I could write.



Pretty much everyone here wanted Jamarcus Russell.


Not true. I wanted nothing to do with him. I wanted Adrian Peterson that year.


Calvin Johnson would've been nice as well......sigh

Missed opportunities


Or Joe Thomas. Although I wanted Brady Quinn at the time Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
Cutblock wrote:
daineraider wrote:
Raidin wrote:
justwinbaby81 wrote:
Honestly though, it was pretty telling how almost everyone was all aboard the Gruden train for the last two days. That said more than any post I could write.



Pretty much everyone here wanted Jamarcus Russell.


Not true. I wanted nothing to do with him. I wanted Adrian Peterson that year.


Calvin Johnson would've been nice as well......sigh

Missed opportunities








Or Joe Thomas. Although I wanted Brady Quinn at the time Embarassed





OUT! Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
Cutblock wrote:
daineraider wrote:
Raidin wrote:
justwinbaby81 wrote:
Honestly though, it was pretty telling how almost everyone was all aboard the Gruden train for the last two days. That said more than any post I could write.



Pretty much everyone here wanted Jamarcus Russell.


Not true. I wanted nothing to do with him. I wanted Adrian Peterson that year.


Calvin Johnson would've been nice as well......sigh

Missed opportunities


Or Joe Thomas. Although I wanted Brady Quinn at the time Embarassed


At least Brady is dreamy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now the Rumors are Jon Gruden wants back in Oakland.

http://nesn.com/2012/12/jon-gruden-raiders-would-be-terrible-fit-due-to-lack-of-young-talent/
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRENDING NOW VIA YAHOO

01 John Gruden Raiders
02 Prisoner lodged in wall
03 Star Trek sequel
04 Anchorman love interest
05 Pitbull puppy dragged
06 Ronda Rousey
07 Obama, Christie meet
08 Stroke
09 Shanelle Workman
10 Bus driver turns in $5

*Update : Now its dropped to 07 that fast*
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OakRaiders3828 wrote:
While we are talking about vet coaches, I would take Dungy!


But I'm all aboard the Allen train, let's get him a vet o coordinator though


like your thinking
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bitty


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ch8878 wrote:
TRENDING NOW VIA YAHOO

01 John Gruden Raiders
02 Prisoner lodged in wall
03 Star Trek sequel
04 Anchorman love interest
05 Pitbull puppy dragged
06 Ronda Rousey
07 Obama, Christie meet
08 Stroke
09 Shanelle Workman
10 Bus driver turns in $5

*Update : Now its dropped to 07 that fast*


Ronda Rousey SO HOT
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gruden rumor was squashed by the Raiders PR people. No truth to it. Lock this up.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
Gruden rumor was squashed by the Raiders PR people. No truth to it. Lock this up.


I don't think it necessarily means there's no truth to it. If it's true, they won't come out and say they're speaking with Gruden to take over for Allen with a month left to go.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oakdb36 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Gruden rumor was squashed by the Raiders PR people. No truth to it. Lock this up.


I don't think it necessarily means there's no truth to it. If it's true, they won't come out and say they're speaking with Gruden to take over for Allen with a month left to go.


It'd be hard to come back form a quote like this:

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“Members of the media,” Gilbert writes, “[t]here are two people on this planet that have the ability to make talks happen between Jon Gruden and the Raiders, with regard to him allegedly taking over the football operations, and/or the position of head coach. Each of those individuals, owner Mark Davis and general manager Reggie McKenzie, wanted me to communicate that this rumor has no validity whatsoever. And for the record, I’m personally disgusted that Hub Arkush would spread such an untruth on the day our head coach, Dennis Allen, had to determine with his mom, his brother and sister, whether to take his dad off life support or wait and hope that he would regain consciousness. Dennis didn’t have an opportunity to say goodbye to his dad, but he did have an opportunity to take a phone call regarding Hub’s story.”


I can understand them denying a rumor. But to release that emotionally charged of a statement you are going to look pretty damn stupid if there is truth to it.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
oakdb36 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Gruden rumor was squashed by the Raiders PR people. No truth to it. Lock this up.


I don't think it necessarily means there's no truth to it. If it's true, they won't come out and say they're speaking with Gruden to take over for Allen with a month left to go.


It'd be hard to come back form a quote like this:

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“Members of the media,” Gilbert writes, “[t]here are two people on this planet that have the ability to make talks happen between Jon Gruden and the Raiders, with regard to him allegedly taking over the football operations, and/or the position of head coach. Each of those individuals, owner Mark Davis and general manager Reggie McKenzie, wanted me to communicate that this rumor has no validity whatsoever. And for the record, I’m personally disgusted that Hub Arkush would spread such an untruth on the day our head coach, Dennis Allen, had to determine with his mom, his brother and sister, whether to take his dad off life support or wait and hope that he would regain consciousness. Dennis didn’t have an opportunity to say goodbye to his dad, but he did have an opportunity to take a phone call regarding Hub’s story.”


I can understand them denying a rumor. But to release that emotionally charged of a statement you are going to look pretty damn stupid if there is truth to it.


I wonder how much this had to do with the situation Allen was going through though.
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