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RunDmc23
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 Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:52 am Post subject: Theo Riddick or Eddie Lacy |
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| If we did trade mcfadden (injury prone) for a 2nd and a 3rd this year I see 2 runningbacks that could step in and be a real draft steal for us in the 3rd, where they are predicted to go Notre Dames Theo Riddick or Alabamas Eddie lacy. Theo Riddick looks like he can do everything mcfadden can do. Eddie lacy looks like a trent Richardson clone, what does the Raider Nation think about picking up one of these guys in the 3rd??? |
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CrashMan510
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Pass on both. Give me Stepfan Taylor or Jonathan Franklin, both of them are going to be studs.
If i had to choose between Lacy and Riddick i'd take Lacy. He brings physicality to the team(something we really need) and dude is really fast for a guy his size
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:00 am Post subject: |
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a 2nd AND a 3rd for McFadden? highly unlikely IMO
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RunDmc23
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | a 2nd AND a 3rd for McFadden? highly unlikely IMO |
Hey if he comes out these last 2 weeks and shows a couple big runs and a couple spectacular plays you never know a team like the jets would jump all over that. I really love mcfadden he is just hurt every year i feel bad for the guy. |
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| CrashMan510 wrote: | Pass on both. Give me Stepfan Taylor or Jonathan Franklin, both of them are going to be studs.
If i had to choose between Lacy and Riddick i'd take Lacy. He brings physicality to the team(something we really need) and dude is really fast for a guy his size |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:03 am Post subject: |
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| RunDmc23 wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | a 2nd AND a 3rd for McFadden? highly unlikely IMO |
Hey if he comes out these last 2 weeks and shows a couple big runs and a couple spectacular plays you never know a team like the jets would jump all over that. I really love mcfadden he is just hurt every year i feel bad for the guy. |
Uh, no. This is a PIPE DREAM if there is one. There is no team in the league that is going to pay that much for McFadden. I don't care what he does in these next few weeks The guy is injury prone and we would be lucky to get one of those picks let alone both of them.
And I take Lacy all day.
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Baggabonez
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:34 am Post subject: Re: Theo Riddick or Eddie Lacy |
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| RunDmc23 wrote: | | If we did trade mcfadden (injury prone) for a 2nd and a 3rd this year I see 2 runningbacks that could step in and be a real draft steal for us in the 3rd, where they are predicted to go Notre Dames Theo Riddick or Alabamas Eddie lacy. Theo Riddick looks like he can do everything mcfadden can do. Eddie lacy looks like a trent Richardson clone, what does the Raider Nation think about picking up one of these guys in the 3rd??? |
Still loonie over McFadden I see. Still overvaluing his market. You went bananas this off-season when I suggested the Raiders trade DMC. I bet you would take some of the proposals u thought were unreasonable now wouldn't ya? Problem is now McFadden's value is 1/10 of what it was presently. When your man crush wears off perhaps you'll be a wee bit more reasonable.
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| RunDmc23 wrote: | | Darren Mcfadden has yet to play with carson palmer having him behind the line of scrimmage is going to help carson palmer so much...Im going to laugh so hard when he balls out of control on you people that wanted to trade him. you are all going to act like you were rootin for him the whole time.. watch haha |
Funny I can't hear ya laughing . . .
| RunDmc23 wrote: | | You want a guy that is not injured and stays healthy well too bad its part of the game if it happens it happens, even the best players get injured at least mcfadden doesnt have an injury to deal with like one of the most Gifted running backs to come around in a long time ADRIAN ALL DAY PETERSON....Keep Mcfadden End of Story Haters |
Tisk,tisk . . .and NOW you wanna trade DMC.
Where's your boy oak42069? He had some strong words but has quietly slipped away. Sacred of a lil' medicine I see . . .
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Heart of Oak
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| RunDmc23 wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | a 2nd AND a 3rd for McFadden? highly unlikely IMO |
Hey if he comes out these last 2 weeks and shows a couple big runs and a couple spectacular plays you never know a team like the jets would jump all over that. I really love mcfadden he is just hurt every year i feel bad for the guy. |
The very very best we could hope for McFadden is a 2nd round pick (and probably a low 2nd at that). |
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big_palooka
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| Heart of Oak wrote: | | RunDmc23 wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | a 2nd AND a 3rd for McFadden? highly unlikely IMO |
Hey if he comes out these last 2 weeks and shows a couple big runs and a couple spectacular plays you never know a team like the jets would jump all over that. I really love mcfadden he is just hurt every year i feel bad for the guy. |
The very very best we could hope for McFadden is a 2nd round pick (and probably a low 2nd at that). |
That is way overvalue. A 3rd would be a dream, but I doubt a team offers that.
My guess, they keep McFadden because he has more value on the roster than they can get for him.
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Heart of Oak
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On the original topic, my answer would be neither Lacey or Riddick or any other RB.
Lets ignore the fact that DMC has missed some time, he wasn't getting it done before the injury - maybe not suited to ZBS or whatever, but the fact is that his production has been poor.
Reece over 4 games:
261 yards, 54 carries, Ypc 4.83
McFadden over 8 games:
455 yards, 139 carries, Ypc 3.27
And this doesn't even take into account the fact that Reece is a fairly awesome receiver for a back. Why can't Reece be our starter?
In any case, why draft a RB when we seem hell bent on getting Carson to throw the ball 40-50 times a game and rarely run the ball?
The focus of this draft has to be defense. |
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Heart of Oak
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| big_palooka wrote: | | Heart of Oak wrote: | | RunDmc23 wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | a 2nd AND a 3rd for McFadden? highly unlikely IMO |
Hey if he comes out these last 2 weeks and shows a couple big runs and a couple spectacular plays you never know a team like the jets would jump all over that. I really love mcfadden he is just hurt every year i feel bad for the guy. |
The very very best we could hope for McFadden is a 2nd round pick (and probably a low 2nd at that). |
That is way overvalue. A 3rd would be a dream, but I doubt a team offers that.
My guess, they keep McFadden because he has more value on the roster than they can get for him. |
I also don't think we would get a 2nd rounder, just saying that is the VERY best we could expect - as in if all the planets of our solar system lined up and stuff - but that OP thinking we might get a 2nd and a 3rd was never gonna happen. |
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BNich0622
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I'm with the Lacy camp. Dude has the body to be a full time NFL RB. Carries the rock well, runs over/through people. Not afraid of contact and has some wheels for a guy his size.
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| BNich0622 wrote: | | I'm with the Lacy camp. Dude has the body to be a full time NFL RB. Carries the rock well, runs over/through people. Not afraid of contact and has some wheels for a guy his size. |
People who look for contact generally don't have the shelf life I would prefer. I'll take Riddick and not even think twice about it. Plus we can probably get him in the 4th or 5th so the risk involved isn't as high. I'm not a fan of picking RBs too early though b/c they can be found EVERYWHERE and their shelf life isn't long. Unless you get an AD type running, no thanks.
Riddick and IMO, there's absolutely no question.
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Chali21
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| Heart of Oak wrote: | On the original topic, my answer would be neither Lacey or Riddick or any other RB.
Lets ignore the fact that DMC has missed some time, he wasn't getting it done before the injury - maybe not suited to ZBS or whatever, but the fact is that his production has been poor.
Reece over 4 games:
261 yards, 54 carries, Ypc 4.83
McFadden over 8 games:
455 yards, 139 carries, Ypc 3.27
And this doesn't even take into account the fact that Reece is a fairly awesome receiver for a back. Why can't Reece be our starter?
In any case, why draft a RB when we seem hell bent on getting Carson to throw the ball 40-50 times a game and rarely run the ball?
The focus of this draft has to be defense. |
We throw 50 times a game because we are usually down by that much at the half.
I agree that we need to make this a D heavy draft, however you can find value in low round RBs. The team always has to look at their board and see who has the best value. Maybe we need a CB but there's none of the with the current rounds grade, however there's a RB, you take the RB. Besides there's no way we can solve all our defensive problems in one draft even if we drafted Georgia's defense. |
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ZoomWaffle
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I've been very impressed with Reece as a RB thus far, but I can see us keeping him as a FB who just so happens to get a decent amount of carries. Stewart has caught my eye as well, he seems to be a decent backup. I like lacy as a runner for sure, but I dont know that he will last till the 3rd, and even if he does, I'm not sure I want to use our 3rd on anything other than OL, DL, or DB.
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