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Flaccomania
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| SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | | StRawz11 wrote: | | SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | | Well I hope Ray and Jimmy Smith can fix our schematic issues on defense and Flacco's inconsistency and Cam's play-calling and scheme on offense, otherwise we're in trouble. |
Honestly, I don't see them helping much. The D has been playing better without them really. You just know Jimmy will be out there biting at the stop and go |
He was the worst rated CB in the NFL before his injury. He won't help this team at all this year.
As for Ray, he was getting blown up in the run game and obviously he's not as good as he was once was in the passing game.
Everyone seems to be hyping up these guys returning, but all I see is their return hurting us, really. |
Though Jimmy has been a disappointment thus far, he's still better than Corey Graham.
Ray will at least give us a rotation of 3 LBs to keep them fresh -- I see Ellerbe getting more PT and Ray and McClain splitting some duties.
They aren't game changers, but they help for sure.
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SnA ExclusiVe
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Flaccomania wrote: | | SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | | StRawz11 wrote: | | SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | | Well I hope Ray and Jimmy Smith can fix our schematic issues on defense and Flacco's inconsistency and Cam's play-calling and scheme on offense, otherwise we're in trouble. |
Honestly, I don't see them helping much. The D has been playing better without them really. You just know Jimmy will be out there biting at the stop and go |
He was the worst rated CB in the NFL before his injury. He won't help this team at all this year.
As for Ray, he was getting blown up in the run game and obviously he's not as good as he was once was in the passing game.
Everyone seems to be hyping up these guys returning, but all I see is their return hurting us, really. |
Though Jimmy has been a disappointment thus far, he's still better than Corey Graham.
Ray will at least give us a rotation of 3 LBs to keep them fresh -- I see Ellerbe getting more PT and Ray and McClain splitting some duties.
They aren't game changers, but they help for sure. |
What exactly leads you to believe he's better than Corey Graham? Because he was a 1st rounder and Graham was a ST ace? Graham, although not playing THAT great himself, is still 10x better than Jimmy Smith was this year, and has 2 INT's compared to Jimmy's zero.
Ray you could argue might help a little bit, but I just don't see him really improving anything except for pre-snap duties.
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Flaccomania
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| SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | | What exactly leads you to believe he's better than Corey Graham? Because he was a 1st rounder and Graham was a ST ace? Graham, although not playing THAT great himself, is still 10x better than Jimmy Smith was this year, and has 2 INT's compared to Jimmy's zero. |
It has nothing to do with draft status and everything to do with watching the games. While Jimmy was certainly burnt a few times on double moves, other than those, he really wasn't that bad. Graham on the other hand, while he has indeed grabbed those two picks and hasn't given up a big play, is quite often 3-4 steps behind his guy. He's not doing a great job in coverage thus far, he just hasn't been "burned" yet.
| Quote: | | Ray you could argue might help a little bit, but I just don't see him really improving anything except for pre-snap duties. |
I think he can give us at least what McClain has thus far, on top of the pre-snap stuff, and on top of keeping a deeper ILB unit which will allow them to stay fresh.
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SnA ExclusiVe
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| Flaccomania wrote: | | SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | | What exactly leads you to believe he's better than Corey Graham? Because he was a 1st rounder and Graham was a ST ace? Graham, although not playing THAT great himself, is still 10x better than Jimmy Smith was this year, and has 2 INT's compared to Jimmy's zero. |
It has nothing to do with draft status and everything to do with watching the games. While Jimmy was certainly burnt a few times on double moves, other than those, he really wasn't that bad. Graham on the other hand, while he has indeed grabbed those two picks and hasn't given up a big play, is quite often 3-4 steps behind his guy. He's not doing a great job in coverage thus far, he just hasn't been "burned" yet.
| Quote: | | Ray you could argue might help a little bit, but I just don't see him really improving anything except for pre-snap duties. |
I think he can give us at least what McClain has thus far, on top of the pre-snap stuff, and on top of keeping a deeper ILB unit which will allow them to stay fresh. |
See that just doesn't make sense to me. Graham may deflect less passes, but he makes plays; Jimmy does not. I will take a guy who gets burned a few times but still makes INT's rather than a guy who gets burned a few times and does not. Besides, as of right now Smith is listed as doubtful.
Yes, which doesn't equal "improving" anything, except for what I mentioned in his pre-snap recognitions and the obvious depth and rotation he now creates.
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Would I like a new QB? Yes. Is it rational or the best the for this team? No.
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StRawz11
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Where's the gameday thread? I'd make one, but it wouldn't be nearly as good
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| StRawz11 wrote: | | Where's the gameday thread? I'd make one, but it wouldn't be nearly as good |
Wait, we have a game tomorrow? I thought our season/the world ended because of last week's loss?
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StRawz11
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| BaltimoreTerp wrote: | | StRawz11 wrote: | | Where's the gameday thread? I'd make one, but it wouldn't be nearly as good |
Wait, we have a game tomorrow? I thought our season/the world ended because of last week's loss? |
Oh, it did? Wow I'm out of the loop here
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| StRawz11 wrote: | | BaltimoreTerp wrote: | | StRawz11 wrote: | | Where's the gameday thread? I'd make one, but it wouldn't be nearly as good |
Wait, we have a game tomorrow? I thought our season/the world ended because of last week's loss? |
Oh, it did? Wow I'm out of the loop here |
You didn't here? Ravens are likely to lose out.
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| sp6488 wrote: | | GaTechRavens wrote: | | diamondbull424 wrote: | | GaTechRavens wrote: |
Congratulations, you just made me commit suicide. |
Are you finished yet.. or might there be room for one more?  |
It's a little uncomfortable fitting more than one person into this booth. But it's not like it'll matter, right? Hop on in! |
Overcoming the awkwardness and squeezing in with you guys. |
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