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khodder
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With his coach leaving it is possible we see a declaration from SJSU QB David Fales, instantly the 2nd best QB in the draft for me.
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| khodder wrote: | | With his coach leaving it is possible we see a declaration from SJSU QB David Fales, instantly the 2nd best QB in the draft for me. |
Here he is against Stanford. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riq0GQOefMA
Now I do not know one thing about this guy but do you think we would be hesitant to draft another small school QB after whiffing on Skelton and Lindley or is that something that should be overlooked?
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| younggun1273 wrote: | | khodder wrote: | | With his coach leaving it is possible we see a declaration from SJSU QB David Fales, instantly the 2nd best QB in the draft for me. |
Here he is against Stanford. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riq0GQOefMA
Now I do not know one thing about this guy but do you think we would be hesitant to draft another small school QB after whiffing on Skelton and Lindley or is that something that should be overlooked? |
You have to look at why we whiffed on players, Skelton and to a lessor extent Lindley, did not "fail" because they came from smaller schools, they failed becasue they were not consistent and were not accurate with the football.
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stchamp98
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I would hope wouldn't just Fales on the other small school guys. I mean, you wouldn't judge Geno Smith on what Pat White did would you?
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| stchamp98 wrote: | | I would hope wouldn't just Fales on the other small school guys. I mean, you wouldn't judge Geno Smith on what Pat White did would you? |
I get your argument, but that doesn't mean it is not worth considering. Would you judge Barkley based on what Leinart, JDB, and Sanchez have been as pros? Similary, Texas has not been able to turn out a good QB in a long time, isn't that worth considering?
I know I was judging Mizzou TE Michael Egnew's future based on what Chase Coffman and Martin Rucker have done as pros.
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khodder
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| younggun1273 wrote: | | I get your argument, but that doesn't mean it is not worth considering. Would you judge Barkley based on what Leinart, JDB, and Sanchez have been as pros? |
No, the school a player attends has zero affect on the evluation process.
| younggun1273 wrote: | | Similary, Texas has not been able to turn out a good QB in a long time, isn't that worth considering? |
The school a player attends has zero affect on the evaluation process
| younggun1273 wrote: | | I know I was judging Mizzou TE Michael Egnew's future based on what Chase Coffman and Martin Rucker have done as pros. |
Why? The ability of Chase Coffman and Martin Rucker had nothing to do with the ability of Egnew.
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stchamp98
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| younggun1273 wrote: | | stchamp98 wrote: | | I would hope wouldn't just Fales on the other small school guys. I mean, you wouldn't judge Geno Smith on what Pat White did would you? |
I get your argument, but that doesn't mean it is not worth considering. Would you judge Barkley based on what Leinart, JDB, and Sanchez have been as pros? Similary, Texas has not been able to turn out a good QB in a long time, isn't that worth considering?
I know I was judging Mizzou TE Michael Egnew's future based on what Chase Coffman and Martin Rucker have done as pros. |
Bolded: Carson Palmer diffuses that to a serious extent.
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JDB isnt a fair comparision.
Leinart, Palmer and Barkley all started 3 years or more, all taked about as possible #1 picks overall, JDB never mentioned in same breathe as those lot.
Sanchez was talked about as being top skill too, in his couple of years.
Palmer has been well above average whole career, Leinart crashed and burned for whatever reason.
Sanchez still can be good, playing NY and not starting well, cannot help your confidence, needs a new start, I would take a punt on him.
Barkley still might be lights out, hard to say, cannot paint him with same brush though. |
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DJ_Fka
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Also, EJ Manuel is no Charlie Ward, both went to FSU.
Cannot see EJ having a Heisman or solid NBA career. |
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The problem with Sanchez is something I touched on in my explanation for Matt Barkley in my mock draft: Number of college starts.
I'm not sure where I saw it but I saw of list of college busts at QB in relation to their number of college starts. It was eye opening. They also had less than 20 games.
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That is the common theory
Also the argument against Cam Newton.
Though it worked for Akili Smith all those years ago, under 20 starts, stunk it up massive. |
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Lattimore will be a day 2 pick. He's too talented to drop further than that. I wouldn't mind spending a 3rd on him. Beanie has 1 year left and Williams has major injury concerns.
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| DJ_Fka wrote: | That is the common theory
Also the argument against Cam Newton.
Though it worked for Akili Smith all those years ago, under 20 starts, stunk it up massive. |
Ryan Tannehill might have had less than 20 starts he looks like a keeper too. |
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DJ_Fka
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| Tannehill had less than 20 at QB, had a heap at WR, so that has to count for something, actual game time, actual opposition. |
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