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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Flacco hadn't been bailed out by the failure of the Chargers to tackle Ray Rice on 4th and 29, as well as some atrocious phantom penalties called on the Pats' defense in week 3, people would be asking if it wasn't time to start Tyrod Taylor.
The dude has had a horseshoe up his butt this year. Everyone except the most beer-goggled Ravens homer sees it.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tzimisce wrote:
If Flacco hadn't been bailed out by the failure of the Chargers to tackle Ray Rice on 4th and 29, as well as some atrocious phantom penalties called on the Pats' defense in week 3, people would be asking if it wasn't time to start Tyrod Taylor.
The dude has had a horseshoe up his butt this year. Everyone except the most beer-goggled Ravens homer sees it.


If it wasn't for a phantom holding call there is no 4th and 29. It balanced out. Patriots thing. IDK what to tell you. He just did what he needed to. Get one first down on offense.

Was it a horse shoe last year too? I think 21 point come back against Arizona. That epic drive at Heinz. Should be GW TD in AFC Championship. Noone just gets lucky this much.
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When I watch Monday Night Countdown (by accident more than choice), I want to see football analysis. Not some human interest story about a Hurricane Sandy survivor.
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Haven't we learned not to argue with DTMB?
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Sciz wrote:
Haven't we learned not to argue with DTMB?


Laughing You're the one who got me here.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snoozefest in DC

I hate these NFC East prime time games Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcmurtry86 wrote:
Snoozefest in DC

I hate these NFC East prime time games Rolling Eyes


We got back to back NFC "BEAST" games. Ugh. Wish NBC had flexed that SNF game out of there.

Also, Tenn plays the Jets on either SNF or MNF in the 2nd to last week of the season.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcmurtry86 wrote:
Snoozefest in DC

I hate these NFC East prime time games :roll:

Works for me, I've got the under.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it just NBT, or is there an astounding amount of young players (1st and 2nd year guys) who look as if they could challenge to be among the all time greats at their position by the time their careers are over?
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NextBigThing wrote:
Is it just NBT, or is there an astounding amount of young players (1st and 2nd year guys) who look as if they could challenge to be among the all time greats at their position by the time their careers are over?


I think it's just you being pretty young. Happens pretty frequently. A lot of guys plateau, others flop, others get injured, some just go on to be "Hall of Very Good" and a few will be "all time greats"

Of the top 10-15 young players (Gronkowski, Luck, Griffin III, AJ Green, Von Miller, Aldon Smith, etc), I'd be surprised if more than 5 of them go on to be truly "All Time Greats"
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of those guys, barring injury, will be top 10, if not top 5, statistically for their positions when they're older. Gronkowski, Green, and Smith in particular.

Given they were all drafted within the same 2 year period, its kind of crazy.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NextBigThing wrote:
All of those guys, barring injury, will be top 10, if not top 5, statistically for their positions when they're older. Gronkowski, Green, and Smith in particular.

Given they were all drafted within the same 2 year period, its kind of crazy.


Sure but how bout these:

2004: Fitzgerald, Wilfork (not statistically, but certainly a potential "All Time Great), Jared Allen
2003: Suggs, Andre Johnson, Witten, Briggs, Polamalu, Kevin Williams
2002: Freeney, Ed Reed, Peppers
2001: Tomlinson, Brees

1994: Isaac Bruce, Marshall Faulk
1995: Brooks, Sapp, Martin
1996: Terrell Owens, Marvin Harrison, Ray Lewis
1997: Tony Gonzalez, Jason Taylor

You can take pretty much any 2-3 year span and come up with 10 guys who look like they will be "all time greats". Hell, if you included some other guys early portions of their careers (Anquan Boldin, Clinton Portis, etc) the list would be longer (had you made the list in the first 2-4 years of their careers)

It's not a new phenomenon in the slightest.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idk. The 2011 draft class is just crazy good, and the 2012 one has some studs as well. There are a bunch of guys posting huge numbers very early in their careers, at positions which are normally slow starters.

While

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2004: Fitzgerald, Wilfork (not statistically, but certainly a potential "All Time Great), Jared Allen
2003: Suggs, Andre Johnson, Witten, Briggs, Polamalu, Kevin Williams
2002: Freeney, Ed Reed, Peppers
2001: Tomlinson, Brees


Are all great players, most of them will not be too high up the stats rankings. LT, Brees, Fitz are the best shots, and they wont come close in many areas.

Luck, Griffin, Green, and co are all significantly better right now than any of those guys were at this point of their careers, and are still improving.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These Redskins are making me feel better about the Ravens losing a game or two down the stretch.
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