Musgrave isn't the problem...

[thestonedkoala]

There, I said it. Musgrave isn't the problem. He's part of a larger problem but he isn't the only problem. I see a lot of mocks calling him to be fired. Is that really going to change anything? He's a veteran coach in the NFL. It starts at the top and goes down. If Frazier was unhappy with the offense, he should have more control over it, but he's not. Yes, he's a defensive minded coach but when you're a head coach, you got to balance it out. You may lean on your offensive coach for more insight but if your red zone offense is atrocious week in and week out, wouldn't you think your boss would speak up and ask you, what's going on? Or at least get you to change the offense a bit. Furthermore, we really don't know what's going on with the personal. Musgrave might not have a ton of trust in Ponder or the receivers. Or he doesn't want to wear down Peterson to the point he gets injured again. But yeah, Musgrave isn't the only problem this organization has. It's ridiculous that Frazier and Williams gets a pass but it's all Musgrave's fault.

[Vikefan79]

3rd and 2 - Pass play
4th and 2 - Pass play


This is why people don't care for Musgrave. Peterson is carrying us down the field and he ruins that momentum but calling poorly executed pass plays.
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[BadgerBoy001]

I like his scheme, but hate the playcalling

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[SteelKing728]

There's alot of things into a coach calling his plays.

He has to adjust to his QBs strengths, the way the RB plays, whether he's a scatback, powerback, 3rd down back etc., The Oline's strengths, the route running for WRs etc.

There's more to it than "Here's the play. Do it". Every Offensive Coordinator has to work around what he's got. Musgrave is calling the play based on what he thinks will be the best possible option for the team

But overall, I think his playcalling has just been horrible. There are times to run the ball, and times to throw. I can't tell you how many times where we had our best chance of picking up a first by just running Peterson one more time, and we call a throw and Ponder gets sacked. Other times its clear a good time to pass, and he tries to get cute and run the ball. His playcalling is just sickening.

Not only that, but he utilizes some players so wrong. Anytime Stephen Burton is on the field, we are looking at 80% run down. Why? Because Burton is a good blocker. Thats it. Dude can't catch a could.

Then there were times we'd take out Peterson on 3rd down , and we'd bring in Gerhart. He goes in there to block, or be the dump down pass for Ponder. At this point everyone on the defense knows its a pass, and they go right ahead and collapse the middle.

and don't even get me started with "The Blazer Package". LOL, that was honestly the dumbest decision to do. Joe Webb can't play Wildcat QB. No one respects him as a passer. Put him in as a conventional QB, and all of a sudden, teams have to respect a passing game, and it gives Joe a chance to run.

Musgrave has horribly mismanaged this team. We are lacking talent at key spots, but Bill is just making it worse ("Compounding" the issue?). He needs to go.
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[Kellerman]

I still like Musgrave, and wouldn't want him fired. Biggest thing for him is to stop overthinking himself at times, and run a more direct offense at times. He's already improved on this from earlier in the season, but at times he'll revert back to his old ways (i.e. not running AP in the redzone).

He's still done a pretty good job with the material at his disposal. I really like his draw run plays we've seen for the past few weeks, AP is looking better than ever, and the pass offence is probably about as good as it can be right now, considering the personnel.

Even with the lack of big-plays and turnover defense, the Vikings are ranked 15th in points/game. Not great by any means, but better than you would expect with the lack of a vertical passing attack. This team isn't a top 10 scoring team in this league. If you look at those teams, almost all of them have a franchise QB, and/or several good wide recievers. We have neither at the moment.
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[The Gnat]

[El Raymundo]

[Lil Uno]

I have no problem with his philosophy, but his playcalling and adjustment are lacking to say the least. The offense is terribly predictable. I give him credit for utilizing Harvin early on after grossly misusing him a year ago. However when teams took that away, he had no answer. It took several games for him to adjust and we still haven't seen anything to suggest he can be successful. When you have Adrian Peterson run for 100+ a game, a good coordinator should be able to get the passing game going, regardless of the personnel.
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[El Raymundo]

I thought he adjusted to not having Harvin pretty well in the Detroit game.

I was generally ok with the playcalling in the Chicago game, until the end when Peterson was standing on the sidelines on 4th and 2. WR drops - I'm looking at you, Mr. Simpson - killed us in that game.
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[PrplChilPill]

THE problem, no. One of the problems, I think so. On third and less than 3 Peterson should get the ball.
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[Mossburg]

[CriminalMind]

With AP in the backfield, the play calling should be relatively easy.
His choice of plays in situations is very questionable, given our personel on the field.

Simple play calling is all that is needed.
When you have the best weapon behind a QB in the league, you should be utilizing his talents to the max.
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[milanb]

[Kellerman]