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raidersgo25


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:20 pm    Post subject: Defensive Line Reply with quote

Mike Waufle left us this year after the new coaching staff was put into place, and I allways believed he was a great coach. He had our D-Line playing much better last season, and with this great of a drop off in production, you have to look at how this D-Line is being coached now. Waufle went to St. Louis and now they are 4th in the league in sacks while we have been one of the worst teams in league at getting to the QB.
Do you think the abcense of Waufle had an impact in our defensive lines level of play? I am embarrased how we've looked on D and I know comming into the season I thought our line was a force to be reckoned with. Interested to hear how the Nation feels and how you think this drop off should affect our draft
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

having Quinn and long helps with being 4th in sacks. Good coach, but wouldn't have helped much with the drop off in Kellys and Seymour (when he plays) play. We have no pass rushers, period. No coach staying or leaving can help that unless they bring in new players.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No the defense started going into the crapper at the end of the year last year. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course it's the coach everyplace the man has been has seen an improvement in the D-line.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what happened to Jack Crawford ?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ch8878 wrote:
So what happened to Jack Crawford ?


extremely raw
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So what happened to Jack Crawford ?


Mike wasn't the coach when Jack came to the Raiders
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he stubbed his toe
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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he stubbed his toe


Why do they even keep him on the roster if they don't plan on using him that makes me wonder about Reggie, and Allen.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ch8878 wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
he stubbed his toe


Why do they even keep him on the roster if they don't plan on using him that makes me wonder about Reggie, and Allen.


developmental rookie who hasn't shown enough growth throughout the season but has potential for the future? How does that make you wonder? Patriots don't use Jake Baquette, but he is on the roster, does that make you wonder about Belichick and Craft? every team has those guys.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

another bad move in the long line of bad moves last offseason
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OakRaiders3828 wrote:
ch8878 wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
he stubbed his toe


Why do they even keep him on the roster if they don't plan on using him that makes me wonder about Reggie, and Allen.


developmental rookie who hasn't shown enough growth throughout the season but has potential for the future? How does that make you wonder? Patriots don't use Jake Baquette, but he is on the roster, does that make you wonder about Belichick and Craft? every team has those guys.


I have never heard of Jake Baquette nor do I care what Patriots do.

The Raiders have 0 pass rush why not just let the young players play seeing the season is pretty much over with ?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ch8878 wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
ch8878 wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
he stubbed his toe


Why do they even keep him on the roster if they don't plan on using him that makes me wonder about Reggie, and Allen.


developmental rookie who hasn't shown enough growth throughout the season but has potential for the future? How does that make you wonder? Patriots don't use Jake Baquette, but he is on the roster, does that make you wonder about Belichick and Craft? every team has those guys.


I have never heard of Jake Baquette nor do I care what Patriots do.

The Raiders have 0 pass rush why not just let the young players play seeing the season is pretty much over with ?


Did you see DA's latest press conference?
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OakRaiders3828 wrote:
ch8878 wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
ch8878 wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
he stubbed his toe


Why do they even keep him on the roster if they don't plan on using him that makes me wonder about Reggie, and Allen.


developmental rookie who hasn't shown enough growth throughout the season but has potential for the future? How does that make you wonder? Patriots don't use Jake Baquette, but he is on the roster, does that make you wonder about Belichick and Craft? every team has those guys.


I have never heard of Jake Baquette nor do I care what Patriots do.

The Raiders have 0 pass rush why not just let the young players play seeing the season is pretty much over with ?


Did you see DA's latest press conference?


No, I'm guessing he must have talked about that then ?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ch8878 wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
ch8878 wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
ch8878 wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
he stubbed his toe


Why do they even keep him on the roster if they don't plan on using him that makes me wonder about Reggie, and Allen.


developmental rookie who hasn't shown enough growth throughout the season but has potential for the future? How does that make you wonder? Patriots don't use Jake Baquette, but he is on the roster, does that make you wonder about Belichick and Craft? every team has those guys.


I have never heard of Jake Baquette nor do I care what Patriots do.

The Raiders have 0 pass rush why not just let the young players play seeing the season is pretty much over with ?


Did you see DA's latest press conference?


No, I'm guessing he must have talked about that then ?


eh, sort of, he was asked about Criner and said that there's some young guys that will get more PT to evaluate them down the stretch
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