Raiders cut LB Rolando McClain; Update - Suspended instead

[Darbsk]

[bitty]

Take a look at all the dead money


Kamerion Wimbley DE 6,500,000 - - 6,500,000
Stanford Routt CB 5,000,000 - - 5,000,000
Kevin Boss TE 4,250,000 - - 4,250,000
John Henderson DT 2,250,000 - - 2,250,000
Hiram Eugene S 1,225,000 - - 1,225,000
Chris Johnson CB 1,000,000 - - 1,000,000
Aaron Curry LB 754,000 - - 754,000
Cooper Carlisle G 600,000 - - 600,000
Daniel Loper T 300,000 - - 300,000
Bruce Campbell T 261,250 - - 261,250
DeMarcus Van Dyke CB 147,844 - - 147,844
Joe Barksdale T 134,950 - - 134,950
Louis Murphy WR 112,000 - - 112,000
Chimdi Chekwa CB 111,300 - - 111,300






http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/cap-hit/

[oakdb36]

[oakdb36]

[holyghost]

Not sure what anyone means when they say "pay" for these changes?

Cap hits and dead money are just cap numbers, they're not real money. You "pay" for them by suffering the cap dead money, limiting you from paying part of your cap allotment to actual players, and then seeing it wiped off the next year thus freeing it up to then pay to actual active players. The cap hit is not a number you are actually paying anyone. It's just the portion of your allotted payroll assigned to that player on your roster or off it. It's an allotment, a mathematical calculation standardized for each team. It's monopoly money.

As far as guaranteed money, if there is remaining guaranteed money and you cut the guy, you pay him the money. Just like Deangelo Hall, or Jamarcus Russell, or the guy they just did the same thing with in Routt, or a host of others.. What's the question here?

You make it sound as if you all know what the details are of Seymour, Huff, Kelly, and McClain's contracts. You really don't, you only know what is reported by others, and those others who really can't say for certain either but need to report something. And even then those details are always incomplete. There could be dates by which guaranteed roster bonuses are due, etc. etc. etc.

All I am doing here is reading into the changes going on right now, on the field with Allen's decisions, in the press conferences with McKenzie's comments. So far, McKenzie has done exactly what he said he was going to do, and has focused on exactly what he said he would focus on. So why is anyone under the impression that won't continue despite the suffering caused by a heap more dead money on our cap? The dude said straight out it's a long term rebuild he has in mind, and has backed it up all along the way. Long term rebuilds like this happen by clearing out crap like this, dead money, guaranteed money to underperformers, scholarships, suffocating contracts, bad seed players, etc.
Short term suffering leads to long term cap health and proper payroll management from scratch. The staff and McKenzie are trying to get to scratch, a zero point at which they can build their team and no longer have to steal Peter to pay Paul like the team was run in the past. Anyone thinking that this staff will not remove underperformers because of salary cap issues, guaranteed payouts, and dead money is not paying attention to what they have been saying all along is their plan.

I'll repeat now what a wise poster said not a week ago. "Stop thinking the organization and staff thinks the way you do."

Honestly, maybe Huff survives. But he's definitely not worth 10 mil so I wouldn't count on it. I hope to God Kelly doesn't survive and I wouldn't count on that either. And I cannot see, at 15 million, how Seymour possibly survives this. As for McClain, I would think his suspension and demotion says quite a bit about his future here. 6.6 mil in salary paid out or 7.2 mil in dead money not paid out doesn't make any difference of note to the cap. The difference is in actually paying 6.6 mil to a slop, with a poor attitude and even worse play. Do you really expect to believe they will pay him 6.6 million dollars to avoid an additional half million on the cap, rather than eat the half million on the cap and pay him nothing?
Anyone believing that needs to stop posting until they read alot of material in order to garner a better understanding of football economics. Cap figures are not real money.

[bitty]

[Rolni]

[oakdb36]

[oakdb36]

I need to correct myself actually.

Van Dyke will count for 295k against our cap in 2013.
Barksdale for 269K.
Chekwa for 226K.

They were all post june 1st cuts. For the same reason, Curry will count against it as well (i believe 1.5M).
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[Rolni]

[oakdb36]

[ZoomWaffle]

[big_palooka]

[JTagg7754]

It sucks that cleaning Al's mess will take this much time.........
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[DOCLEW 28]

Doesn't look like its too much time. Don't these numbers come off the books for next year? That would mean a lot more money for free agents.
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