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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Allen and Reggie comes off pretty badly here. If McClain has continuously been trouble this year then I have to seriously question Allens competence in letting him see the field at all, the other players must be pretty pissed as well. Not only that but now after his suspension they still let him back on the field. smh.
Are you familiar with Derrick Johnson from the chiefs?



I've heard of him yea, why?
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I think Allen and Reggie comes off pretty badly here. If McClain has continuously been trouble this year then I have to seriously question Allens competence in letting him see the field at all, the other players must be pretty pissed as well. Not only that but now after his suspension they still let him back on the field. smh.
Are you familiar with Derrick Johnson from the chiefs?



I've heard of him yea, why?
Top 10 pick at LB who got benched, not cut but benched a few years ago, he's doing just fine now.

But he didn't get better until he realized he wanted to start,lol.

Most of these athletes live these privelaged lives they haven't had to sit on the bench since grade school the hype builds and gets out of controlRolando probably had a talk with his agent, and if his agent is good he gave him a HUGE reality check. If he gets cut off this team he will NEVER see anything close to what he got when he was drafted.


Remember when Huff got benched? He came back better for it too.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
I think Allen and Reggie comes off pretty badly here. If McClain has continuously been trouble this year then I have to seriously question Allens competence in letting him see the field at all, the other players must be pretty pissed as well. Not only that but now after his suspension they still let him back on the field. smh.
Are you familiar with Derrick Johnson from the chiefs?



I've heard of him yea, why?
Top 10 pick at LB who got benched, not cut but benched a few years ago, he's doing just fine now.

But he didn't get better until he realized he wanted to start,lol.

Most of these athletes live these privelaged lives they haven't had to sit on the bench since grade school the hype builds and gets out of controlRolando probably had a talk with his agent, and if his agent is good he gave him a HUGE reality check. If he gets cut off this team he will NEVER see anything close to what he got when he was drafted.


Remember when Huff got benched? He came back better for it too.




Did he get benched for poor play or acting the tool? Huff came back and he still sucks.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
I think Allen and Reggie comes off pretty badly here. If McClain has continuously been trouble this year then I have to seriously question Allens competence in letting him see the field at all, the other players must be pretty pissed as well. Not only that but now after his suspension they still let him back on the field. smh.
Are you familiar with Derrick Johnson from the chiefs?



I've heard of him yea, why?
Top 10 pick at LB who got benched, not cut but benched a few years ago, he's doing just fine now.

But he didn't get better until he realized he wanted to start,lol.

Most of these athletes live these privelaged lives they haven't had to sit on the bench since grade school the hype builds and gets out of controlRolando probably had a talk with his agent, and if his agent is good he gave him a HUGE reality check. If he gets cut off this team he will NEVER see anything close to what he got when he was drafted.


Remember when Huff got benched? He came back better for it too.




Did he get benched for poor play or acting the tool? Huff came back and he still sucks.


Poor play.

But my point is perhaps they are attempting to get the best out of Rolando instead of giving up on him.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
I think Allen and Reggie comes off pretty badly here. If McClain has continuously been trouble this year then I have to seriously question Allens competence in letting him see the field at all, the other players must be pretty pissed as well. Not only that but now after his suspension they still let him back on the field. smh.
Are you familiar with Derrick Johnson from the chiefs?



I've heard of him yea, why?
Top 10 pick at LB who got benched, not cut but benched a few years ago, he's doing just fine now.

But he didn't get better until he realized he wanted to start,lol.

Most of these athletes live these privelaged lives they haven't had to sit on the bench since grade school the hype builds and gets out of controlRolando probably had a talk with his agent, and if his agent is good he gave him a HUGE reality check. If he gets cut off this team he will NEVER see anything close to what he got when he was drafted.


Remember when Huff got benched? He came back better for it too.




Did he get benched for poor play or acting the tool? Huff came back and he still sucks.


Poor play.

But my point is perhaps they are attempting to get the best out of Rolando instead of giving up on him.



Don't do it to the detriment of your own team though. If a guy has been half-assing it and having a negative influence on a team he should be cut.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
I think Allen and Reggie comes off pretty badly here. If McClain has continuously been trouble this year then I have to seriously question Allens competence in letting him see the field at all, the other players must be pretty pissed as well. Not only that but now after his suspension they still let him back on the field. smh.
Are you familiar with Derrick Johnson from the chiefs?



I've heard of him yea, why?
Top 10 pick at LB who got benched, not cut but benched a few years ago, he's doing just fine now.

But he didn't get better until he realized he wanted to start,lol.

Most of these athletes live these privelaged lives they haven't had to sit on the bench since grade school the hype builds and gets out of controlRolando probably had a talk with his agent, and if his agent is good he gave him a HUGE reality check. If he gets cut off this team he will NEVER see anything close to what he got when he was drafted.


Remember when Huff got benched? He came back better for it too.




Did he get benched for poor play or acting the tool? Huff came back and he still sucks.


Poor play.

But my point is perhaps they are attempting to get the best out of Rolando instead of giving up on him.



Don't do it to the detriment of your own team though. If a guy has been half-assing it and having a negative influence on a team he should be cut.


He actually has trade value, be it slight. Cutting him might have worked before his tirade to dump his contract. But now, it's best to save some face and hopefully get a pick for him.

IMO, this move wasn't made to keep Slowlando around. It was made to hopefully get more picks in the draft.
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He has little trade value when everyone knows we are going to cut him. I could understand picking up so he doesn't hit free agency but with his contract it'll be cheaper fighting for him in FA.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
I think Allen and Reggie comes off pretty badly here. If McClain has continuously been trouble this year then I have to seriously question Allens competence in letting him see the field at all, the other players must be pretty pissed as well. Not only that but now after his suspension they still let him back on the field. smh.
Are you familiar with Derrick Johnson from the chiefs?



I've heard of him yea, why?
Top 10 pick at LB who got benched, not cut but benched a few years ago, he's doing just fine now.

But he didn't get better until he realized he wanted to start,lol.

Most of these athletes live these privelaged lives they haven't had to sit on the bench since grade school the hype builds and gets out of controlRolando probably had a talk with his agent, and if his agent is good he gave him a HUGE reality check. If he gets cut off this team he will NEVER see anything close to what he got when he was drafted.


Remember when Huff got benched? He came back better for it too.




Did he get benched for poor play or acting the tool? Huff came back and he still sucks.


Poor play.

But my point is perhaps they are attempting to get the best out of Rolando instead of giving up on him.



Don't do it to the detriment of your own team though. If a guy has been half-assing it and having a negative influence on a team he should be cut.

Well maybe that's what these last few games are for. Who cares if he's a "negative influence" at this point in the season. The seaosn is lost. This might be his last chance to prove he's worthy of a roster spot in the NFL.

If anything, McClain could increase his trade value these last few weeks if he plays well.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He has little trade value when everyone knows we are going to cut him. I could understand picking up so he doesn't hit free agency but with his contract it'll be cheaper fighting for him in FA.


half of me is on bp's side but the other half of me thinks this.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RaisinBran wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
I think Allen and Reggie comes off pretty badly here. If McClain has continuously been trouble this year then I have to seriously question Allens competence in letting him see the field at all, the other players must be pretty pissed as well. Not only that but now after his suspension they still let him back on the field. smh.
Are you familiar with Derrick Johnson from the chiefs?



I've heard of him yea, why?
Top 10 pick at LB who got benched, not cut but benched a few years ago, he's doing just fine now.

But he didn't get better until he realized he wanted to start,lol.

Most of these athletes live these privelaged lives they haven't had to sit on the bench since grade school the hype builds and gets out of controlRolando probably had a talk with his agent, and if his agent is good he gave him a HUGE reality check. If he gets cut off this team he will NEVER see anything close to what he got when he was drafted.


Remember when Huff got benched? He came back better for it too.




Did he get benched for poor play or acting the tool? Huff came back and he still sucks.


Poor play.

But my point is perhaps they are attempting to get the best out of Rolando instead of giving up on him.



Don't do it to the detriment of your own team though. If a guy has been half-assing it and having a negative influence on a team he should be cut.

Well maybe that's what these last few games are for. Who cares if he's a "negative influence" at this point in the season. The seaosn is lost. This might be his last chance to prove he's worthy of a roster spot in the NFL.

If anything, McClain could increase his trade value these last few weeks if he plays well.


idk. id be pretty pissed if the defensive cap was the main one being lazy out there
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
I think Allen and Reggie comes off pretty badly here. If McClain has continuously been trouble this year then I have to seriously question Allens competence in letting him see the field at all, the other players must be pretty pissed as well. Not only that but now after his suspension they still let him back on the field. smh.
Are you familiar with Derrick Johnson from the chiefs?



I've heard of him yea, why?
Top 10 pick at LB who got benched, not cut but benched a few years ago, he's doing just fine now.

But he didn't get better until he realized he wanted to start,lol.

Most of these athletes live these privelaged lives they haven't had to sit on the bench since grade school the hype builds and gets out of controlRolando probably had a talk with his agent, and if his agent is good he gave him a HUGE reality check. If he gets cut off this team he will NEVER see anything close to what he got when he was drafted.


Remember when Huff got benched? He came back better for it too.


Are you familiar with the fact that derrick johnson has an abundance of talent. I understand the point your making, but what does mcclain do good? he has such a low ceiling, he will never be more than average.
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NCOUGHMAN wrote:
RaisinBran wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Raidin wrote:
I think Allen and Reggie comes off pretty badly here. If McClain has continuously been trouble this year then I have to seriously question Allens competence in letting him see the field at all, the other players must be pretty pissed as well. Not only that but now after his suspension they still let him back on the field. smh.
Are you familiar with Derrick Johnson from the chiefs?



I've heard of him yea, why?
Top 10 pick at LB who got benched, not cut but benched a few years ago, he's doing just fine now.

But he didn't get better until he realized he wanted to start,lol.

Most of these athletes live these privelaged lives they haven't had to sit on the bench since grade school the hype builds and gets out of controlRolando probably had a talk with his agent, and if his agent is good he gave him a HUGE reality check. If he gets cut off this team he will NEVER see anything close to what he got when he was drafted.


Remember when Huff got benched? He came back better for it too.




Did he get benched for poor play or acting the tool? Huff came back and he still sucks.


Poor play.

But my point is perhaps they are attempting to get the best out of Rolando instead of giving up on him.



Don't do it to the detriment of your own team though. If a guy has been half-assing it and having a negative influence on a team he should be cut.

Well maybe that's what these last few games are for. Who cares if he's a "negative influence" at this point in the season. The seaosn is lost. This might be his last chance to prove he's worthy of a roster spot in the NFL.

If anything, McClain could increase his trade value these last few weeks if he plays well.


idk. id be pretty pissed if the defensive cap was the main one being lazy out there


He's not starting. He's now a backup and ST player according to Allen.

Also, heard in an interview with Bartel (recently cut) said McClain's a good guy. Just needs to grow up. For what it's worth.

I want him gone, but if the Raiders can magically swing a trade with him involved, I'll be even happier.
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If anything, McClain could increase his trade value these last few weeks if he plays well.


As a back up and STer? Doubtful. For once i agree with Raidin on a McClain related issue, he should be gone already. Discipline has been the main talk for the last year, it was the perfect opportunity to show everybody how much it matters. Now, players know there are more important factors than just discipline.
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oakdb36 wrote:
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If anything, McClain could increase his trade value these last few weeks if he plays well.


As a back up and STer? Doubtful. For once i agree with Raidin on a McClain related issue, he should be gone already. Discipline has been the main talk for the last year, it was the perfect opportunity to show everybody how much it matters. Now, players know there are more important factors than just discipline.

Damn. I didn't know he would only be on ST now. I feel like he's too slow to be on special teams lol.
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oakdb36 wrote:
RaisinBran wrote:

If anything, McClain could increase his trade value these last few weeks if he plays well.


As a back up and STer? Doubtful. For once i agree with Raidin on a McClain related issue, he should be gone already. Discipline has been the main talk for the last year, it was the perfect opportunity to show everybody how much it matters. Now, players know there are more important factors than just discipline.


How? He just lost money and he got demoted. If we cut him he gets the Routt treatment and gets paid by two teams. That would send the message that says "be an idiot and get cut to a better team for more money."
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