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Griff3


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:59 pm    Post subject: D-Hall speculation? Reply with quote

I really think Hall should be given a shot at free safety depending on how the season goes on. He has the necessary ball hawking skills, and considering that he gets burnt as a cornerback it would ease him from that pressure. Also I think a corner like Wilson could benefit from having solid free safety coverage over the top. Also Hall has become pretty good at tackling, so I think he can chip in at run support every now and then.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm Worried he'd gamble way too much, he's also not a big hitter nor sound tackler. I'd be worried about him being the last line of defense. I'm not a fan of the move
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

turtle28 wrote:
I'm Worried he'd gamble way too much, he's also not a big hitter nor sound tackler. I'd be worried about him being the last line of defense. I'm not a fan of the move


Isn't that what is required to play the position. I mean with some practice he gets better at reading coverages, but we can't do worse than Madieu Williams. Also D Hall is a much better playmaker than our entire secondary. I rather have him take chances in the free safety position where he is directly not responsible for anyone instead of the corner spot.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm Worried he'd gamble way too much, he's also not a big hitter nor sound tackler. I'd be worried about him being the last line of defense. I'm not a fan of the move

Halls one of the best tacklers on our team.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THESKINSFAN21 wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
I'm Worried he'd gamble way too much, he's also not a big hitter nor sound tackler. I'd be worried about him being the last line of defense. I'm not a fan of the move

Halls one of the best tacklers on our team.


I'm actually impressed with his ability to wrap up this season, instead of [inappropriate/removed] shoulder tackles that was started by Laron Landry and spread like a disease to the rest of the secondary.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ehhh. If we let up 50+ points, sure. Why not?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The real problem with moving Hall to safety is the fact that we don't really have someone to replace him with. Unless you want Cedric Griffin on the field for almost all of the snaps?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The real problem with moving Hall to safety is the fact that we don't really have someone to replace him with. Unless you want Cedric Griffin on the field for almost all of the snaps?


Why not Richard Crawford? Or that new guy Murphy?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few reasons why it won't work

1) it won't get the pass rush to the QB any faster, which is probably the biggest reason the secondary has been this bad

2) I'm sure somewhere in his mind D Hall thinks he's the best corner in the NFL, meaning I doubt he'd be up for it.

3) like it was said earlier wed be stuck with Cedric Griffin on every down
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He already plays some, and now with C.Griffin back he is playing more in the nickel. Keep him in the Charles Woodson position as he can read the QB, contribute to run defense and blitz. He's found his spot, unfortunately they've had issues with the guys on the outside - for Cedric, it's been injury.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone that thinks that Crawford or Murphy should be starting in place of Hall while Hall plays FS should really understand that there is a reason why neither of these guys are starting to begin with. Hall at FS next year could be entertained, but a top tier CB needs to be acquired at some point that will play true man to man coverage and not gamble as much.

Hall has lead the CB's in tackles the last two years and that has been to his credit. Tackling is not his problem.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Griff3 wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
I'm Worried he'd gamble way too much, he's also not a big hitter nor sound tackler. I'd be worried about him being the last line of defense. I'm not a fan of the move


Isn't that what is required to play the position. I mean with some practice he gets better at reading coverages, but we can't do worse than Madieu Williams. Also D Hall is a much better playmaker than our entire secondary. I rather have him take chances in the free safety position where he is directly not responsible for anyone instead of the corner spot.
we can do cheaper than 8 million though. I don't think he's as good as a fit there as a player who's played FS through high school and college like someone we'd draft in round 2 or like a free agent we could sign and probably pay less than the 8 million that is due to Hall next year, like Jarius Byrd.

Hall has one good game all year and all of a sudden people are back on his bandwagon like he's some kind of pro bowler or something. I just don't get it. Confused

He costs way to much for what he gives us in terms of play, leadership and especially effort.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mike23md wrote:
Anyone that thinks that Crawford or Murphy should be starting in place of Hall while Hall plays FS should really understand that there is a reason why neither of these guys are starting to begin with. Hall at FS next year could be entertained, but a top tier CB needs to be acquired at some point that will play true man to man coverage and not gamble as much.

Hall has lead the CB's in tackles the last two years and that has been to his credit. Tackling is not his problem.
he leads in tackles because teams throw on him so much, he's lousy in coverage. When a team completes a pass, then Hall makes a trailing tackle.

He doesn't do to much tackling where he's filling holes or hitting wrs when they are coming across the middle. Those are the hits you'd expect a safety to make and I don't think Hall would do it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redskins24-7 wrote:
Woz wrote:
The real problem with moving Hall to safety is the fact that we don't really have someone to replace him with. Unless you want Cedric Griffin on the field for almost all of the snaps?


Why not Richard Crawford? Or that new guy Murphy?



It's never a good idea when you have to say "or that new guy Murphy" lmao
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he plays like he did in Philly and Dallas trough the whole year he will stay at CB and not be released. Sadly hes an inconsistent player who needs 3 games to really keep his job because of how amazing he does in those 3 games .

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