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pigsooie5
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After the release of Amobi Okoye, Chicago now has one spot available on the active roster. They brought in Aaron Curry yesterday for a workout, my guess is he or Babin will be signed in Chicago by the end of the week... They showed great interest in him in 2010 IIRC, when he was a FA.
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| Eagles_808 wrote: | | Ketchup wrote: | | MNPackfan32 wrote: | | He isn't even a situational pass rusher. He is a Wide 9 situational pass rusher. |
Scheme fit is overrated. |
Ketchup, you clearly know nothing of Babin. Without Jim Washburn's wide-9 (they were together in TEN two years ago), Babin is literally a bum. And even this year, in the same system, he did not produce. |
Wide 9 is not a type of defense, it is a technique. All you simply do is tell your DE's to line up in the 9 which is pretty much the D Gap - right next to the tight end. Really has nothing to do with Jim Washburn's defense unless these were coverage sacks. Obviously takes a lot longer to run from a Wide 9 than a traditional spot.
People are giving too much credit to "the Wide 9." Again it's not a type of defense it's just a technique - that opens up a lot of running lanes. 
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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| BenchSanchez wrote: | | Eagles_808 wrote: | | Ketchup wrote: | | MNPackfan32 wrote: | | He isn't even a situational pass rusher. He is a Wide 9 situational pass rusher. |
Scheme fit is overrated. |
Ketchup, you clearly know nothing of Babin. Without Jim Washburn's wide-9 (they were together in TEN two years ago), Babin is literally a bum. And even this year, in the same system, he did not produce. |
Wide 9 is not a type of defense, it is a technique. All you simply do is tell your DE's to line up in the 9 which is pretty much the D Gap - right next to the tight end. Really has nothing to do with Jim Washburn's defense unless these were coverage sacks. Obviously takes a lot longer to run from a Wide 9 than a traditional spot.
People are giving too much credit to "the Wide 9." Again it's not a type of defense it's just a technique - that opens up a lot of running lanes. |
It's just as much of a "defense" as any is -- it's a defensive formation. It may not differ as much as others, but it most certainly is a "type of defense" as its centered around a specific formation for its DEs to take.
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JaguarCrazy2832
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im shocked by this, i know they have youth at the position but he dominated last year
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| pigsooie5 wrote: | | After the release of Amobi Okoye, Chicago now has one spot available on the active roster. They brought in Aaron Curry yesterday for a workout, my guess is he or Babin will be signed in Chicago by the end of the week... They showed great interest in him in 2010 IIRC, when he was a FA. |
Ha! Jason Babin, now Amobi Okoye...
Why do the Ravens pick up Texans' FAs and they turn out to be good?
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| Quote: | | REPORT: It hasn’t taken long for Babin to start lining up interviews. He is on his way to Atlanta to interview with the Falcons and will proceed to the New Orleans Saints following his interview with Atlanta. From there Jason will head to Denver on Wednesday night to talk shop with the Broncos. Another team that could be interested in his services are the Detroit Lions who also run the wide-9. |
http://phillysportsnut.com/eagles-cut-jason-babin-making-sense-of-the-move/
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| saintsfan wrote: | | Quote: | | REPORT: It hasn’t taken long for Babin to start lining up interviews. He is on his way to Atlanta to interview with the Falcons and will proceed to the New Orleans Saints following his interview with Atlanta. From there Jason will head to Denver on Wednesday night to talk shop with the Broncos. Another team that could be interested in his services are the Detroit Lions who also run the wide-9. |
http://phillysportsnut.com/eagles-cut-jason-babin-making-sense-of-the-move/ |
Seriously? He hasn't even cleared waivers yet.
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| BenchSanchez wrote: | | Eagles_808 wrote: | | Ketchup wrote: | | MNPackfan32 wrote: | | He isn't even a situational pass rusher. He is a Wide 9 situational pass rusher. |
Scheme fit is overrated. |
Ketchup, you clearly know nothing of Babin. Without Jim Washburn's wide-9 (they were together in TEN two years ago), Babin is literally a bum. And even this year, in the same system, he did not produce. |
Wide 9 is not a type of defense, it is a technique. All you simply do is tell your DE's to line up in the 9 which is pretty much the D Gap - right next to the tight end. Really has nothing to do with Jim Washburn's defense unless these were coverage sacks. Obviously takes a lot longer to run from a Wide 9 than a traditional spot.
People are giving too much credit to "the Wide 9." Again it's not a type of defense it's just a technique - that opens up a lot of running lanes. |
Well, it's part of a defensive scheme. And the bold shows a complete lack of understanding of the Wide 9. The point of the Wide 9 is allow speedy edge rushers to stress OTs by forcing the OTs to have to kick-slide quicker to meet them at the corner which opens up a wide gap to the inside allowing for counter moves to the inside to be more effective. Plus the added stress it puts on the OT in having to move quicker, get out further and protect a bigger inside gap makes outside moves more effective and occasionally if the OT is a split second late off the snap, the DE can get by him without being touched.
The Wide 9 definitely makes pass rushing easier for edge rushers like Babin. However, it also makes run stopping a whole lot harder. You gotta be a darn good run stopper at DE to be able to effectively stop the run in the Wide 9...Babin being a terrible run stopper was only made worse in that regard in the Wide 9.
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| Sciz wrote: | | saintsfan wrote: | | Quote: | | REPORT: It hasn’t taken long for Babin to start lining up interviews. He is on his way to Atlanta to interview with the Falcons and will proceed to the New Orleans Saints following his interview with Atlanta. From there Jason will head to Denver on Wednesday night to talk shop with the Broncos. Another team that could be interested in his services are the Detroit Lions who also run the wide-9. |
http://phillysportsnut.com/eagles-cut-jason-babin-making-sense-of-the-move/ |
Seriously? He hasn't even cleared waivers yet. |
No sense in just sitting there and waiting though... might as well do the interviews in the event that he clears, he'll already have a head start on getting into some team's camp.
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| BenchSanchez wrote: | Wide 9 is not a type of defense, it is a technique. All you simply do is tell your DE's to line up in the 9 which is pretty much the D Gap - right next to the tight end. Really has nothing to do with Jim Washburn's defense unless these were coverage sacks. Obviously takes a lot longer to run from a Wide 9 than a traditional spot.
People are giving too much credit to "the Wide 9." Again it's not a type of defense it's just a technique - that opens up a lot of running lanes. |
You can call it whatever you want. But the fact remains, Babin did NOTHING without the Wide 9 [insert descriptive term of your choice] for his entire career. He is a one trick pony that has been exposed this season, and was playing with no passion or heart at all. That, is what it is.
| Flaccomania wrote: | | It's just as much of a "defense" as any is -- it's a defensive formation. It may not differ as much as others, but it most certainly is a "type of defense" as its centered around a specific formation for its DEs to take. |
| jrry32 wrote: | | The Wide 9 definitely makes pass rushing easier for edge rushers like Babin. However, it also makes run stopping a whole lot harder. You gotta be a darn good run stopper at DE to be able to effectively stop the run in the Wide 9...Babin being a terrible run stopper was only made worse in that regard in the Wide 9. |
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At least he's getting employed.
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I didn't care for him and Trent Coles off the field act. They are outdoors man and seemed to take it to another level this past offseason with some hype and fan following for there outdoor adventures.. They were hiking and climbing here and there and risking there life doing this and that.. and they come into Camp and the Season with completely flat un-explosive legs..they just look soft.. and tired every game.. I think they blew there energy in the summer and never got into real football shape .. as well at age catching up to them.. Babins the worst.. he looks so soft and uninterested in tackling anything.. he just looks flat.
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Picked off waivers but no announcement by who
https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/273897101564473347
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| Sciz wrote: | https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/273897762544824320
He's a Jaguar |
bahahaha, good riddance.
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