Geno Smith is worth drafting number one

JHawk24 · Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Posts: 503

Absolutely not. As an organization you can't put that value on a premium pick when it's not worthy. For hypothetical reasoning, let's say we have the same draft "value" as we did in 2012. Would we be willing to give up more than the Redskins did to acquire RGIII for Geno Smith? If anybody in this forum even quanders that thought they have lost all credibility IMHO. RGIII and Luck are franchise QB's. I would rate Teddy Bridgewater as the best NFL prosepect with either Geno Smith or Aaron Murray second currently in college. That being said, their value does not warrant a top 7 pick. Either we maximize our investment in losing whether by trading down for more power, or we take the player that belongs in that slot. And no offense to Ryk with Wilson or the lovers of Barkley, they will never be Super Bowl caliber starters in the NFL. ESPECIALLY if the league keeps true to their word that they will rewrite the rules on blocking below the waste. Coverage and speed and/or power bltizers will become the premium on D and so will come the quick armed fast ballers with command at QB. Even then, arm strength won't be the only trait, but pocket presence as well. The Quinn's or the Landry Jones's of the world who don't have the guts to step up now, no matter their arm strength will be obsolete as well. That's where an Aaron Murray at only 6'1 or a Tahj Boyd at 6'2 tops will continue what Brees, Luck, Cam, Colin K, and RGIII have introduced into the league. And the Peyton's and the Brady's of the world are a rare breed who don't need elusiveness but will actually step into the buckets of the pocket to avoid pressure and take the pop are a dying breed and the Staffords of the world who have perfected the throw on the run will prevail.

Long story short, we over value our QB positonal need because of the lack of priority given to it by the organization. Geno may very well be a top 10 QB in the league, but if we were to draft him, we better be trading down. And to the people that say we may not get him, there is not a single thing about him that makes him as much of a sure bet as a Joeckel, Lotulelei or Jones.
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How can you say he could be a top ten QB in the league but then say we better trade down if we draft him? That's bloody insane. I'd gladly give up 2 first rounders for a top ten QB.
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ArrowheadRage58 · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:19 pm Post subject:

and if you're taking a LT or DL, you better be damn sure they're gonna make more of an impact than a QB.
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N. Dame ILB, Ta'o (or how ever you spell it), trade back up and take the QB.

But not without getting rid of Pioli FIRST.
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bigschmadt00 · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:45 pm Post subject:

When you factor in the relatively small contract for a #1 overall guy under the new CBA, it makes "taking a shot" on someone much more palatable. I for one am all for it, so long as we don't waste too much time. I'm guessing Geno gets 2 full seasons to show good progress towards being a very good QB (not even elite), and demonstrates on a regular basis he's capable of beating a defense. If not, then we go back to the well, and a well that is shaping up to be very strong in the 2015 draft.

Anyone know how many true and/or redshirt freshman are starting and playing well this year? Of course there's muh boi Manziel, but he's just the tip of the ice berg. You've got a few out west that look promising in UCLA's Brett Hundley, USC's Max Wittek, Oregon's Marcus Mariota, and Stanford's Kevin Hogan. At Notre Dame you've got Everett Golson, and Ohio State's got Braxton Miller. And this isn't even talking about guys who are behind more senior QB's like Philip Rivers little brother at LSU, OU's Kendal Thompson, and lots of others with some real upside, but nothing proven yet.

This is a bad year for QB's, not doubt, at least in comparison to 2012 and 2004. However, we should not prevent us from taking the best of the bunch, which all signs are pointing to us being in position to do. If it works out, great, we've most likely put ourselves into SB contention for the next decade. If not, we've wasted a 1st round pick and roughly $25MM (what Cassel cost over 2 years), but at least we tried, and now we're in position for what looks like one of the best QB classes ever.

Yes I know a lot can change in 2-3 years, and not all of these guys will be good, or come out in the same class, but even spread over 2-3 drafts, there could still be 4 legit franchise QB's each year.

Lets take a shot now, because no other player could possibly improve our team more then a good QB. If we're going to capitalize on JC, DJ, Tamba, Flowers, Bowe, and several other's prime, we need a QB this year. Don't let the failures of past GM's preclude us from taking a need at the top. We can always try again in a few years if it doesn't work, ex. Jacksonville.
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Rearviewmirror · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:40 pm Post subject: