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MJG123
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Honey Badger = Macho Harris' clone
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nlesthought
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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^Matthieu has way better ball skills.
Was watching the LSU v WVa game from 2011 wanted to see the maturation of Geno.
He has a quick release but he still has a knack of holding the ball low. How consistent is his footwork from under center?
I could see Geno if chip is the HC the quick release and high IQ would work wonders with a dominant run game |
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Fitz2k2 
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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MJG123 wrote: | Honey Badger = Macho Harris' clone
no thank you |
dude you need to stop drinking now your talking nonsense _________________ Save Me Barry! |
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Nabbs4u 
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 28998 Location: 1st Ballot Eagles HOF 3x Gold Standard 09' /10 '/11' 2X ENBD/Pick em Winner Kiltman on the Sig
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:12 am Post subject: |
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I'd easily take a flier on the Badger if he is still on the board after the 6th rd. No different IMO then taking a flier on a RB in the 7th rd with limited college experience, supposed character issues but a huge upside. Nothing wrong with talented players being given a chance with a late rd pick. No guarantees as a UDFA. Worse case he's our ST return man. Best case he not only is that but eventually turns out to be a assett in the secondary as well. Not like we have anyone lighting the world on fire in either phase. _________________
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Kiltman 
 Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 17463 Location: Flipadelphia
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Nabbs4u wrote: | I'd easily take a flier on the Badger if he is still on the board after the 6th rd. No different IMO then taking a flier on a RB in the 7th rd with limited college experience, supposed character issues but a huge upside. Nothing wrong with talented players being given a chance with a late rd pick. No guarantees as a UDFA. Worse case he's our ST return man. Best case he not only is that but eventually turns out to be a assett in the secondary as well. Not like we have anyone lighting the world on fire in either phase. |
Exactly...I hope Bryce is a model for what they'll continue to do.....Why not use a late picks the guy and not have to worry about getting him as an UDFA. I hope they keep taking chances on guys like that rather then drafting a career backup at best instead. _________________
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killdawabbit 
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Kiltman wrote: | Nabbs4u wrote: | I'd easily take a flier on the Badger if he is still on the board after the 6th rd. No different IMO then taking a flier on a RB in the 7th rd with limited college experience, supposed character issues but a huge upside. Nothing wrong with talented players being given a chance with a late rd pick. No guarantees as a UDFA. Worse case he's our ST return man. Best case he not only is that but eventually turns out to be a assett in the secondary as well. Not like we have anyone lighting the world on fire in either phase. |
Exactly...I hope Bryce is a model for what they'll continue to do.....Why not use a late picks the guy and not have to worry about getting him as an UDFA. I hope they keep taking chances on guys like that rather then drafting a career backup at best instead. |
I like that idea as well, but I think the type of "character issues" are very important. I'm not sure Mathieu qualifies... |
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willy_law
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:37 am Post subject: |
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killdawabbit wrote: | Kiltman wrote: | Nabbs4u wrote: | I'd easily take a flier on the Badger if he is still on the board after the 6th rd. No different IMO then taking a flier on a RB in the 7th rd with limited college experience, supposed character issues but a huge upside. Nothing wrong with talented players being given a chance with a late rd pick. No guarantees as a UDFA. Worse case he's our ST return man. Best case he not only is that but eventually turns out to be a assett in the secondary as well. Not like we have anyone lighting the world on fire in either phase. |
Exactly...I hope Bryce is a model for what they'll continue to do.....Why not use a late picks the guy and not have to worry about getting him as an UDFA. I hope they keep taking chances on guys like that rather then drafting a career backup at best instead. |
I like that idea as well, but I think the type of "character issues" are very important. I'm not sure Mathieu qualifies... |
the guy just likes to smoke a lot, he isn't a jerkoff or anything. _________________
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RollEagles 
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:52 am Post subject: |
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willy_law wrote: | killdawabbit wrote: | Kiltman wrote: | Nabbs4u wrote: | I'd easily take a flier on the Badger if he is still on the board after the 6th rd. No different IMO then taking a flier on a RB in the 7th rd with limited college experience, supposed character issues but a huge upside. Nothing wrong with talented players being given a chance with a late rd pick. No guarantees as a UDFA. Worse case he's our ST return man. Best case he not only is that but eventually turns out to be a assett in the secondary as well. Not like we have anyone lighting the world on fire in either phase. |
Exactly...I hope Bryce is a model for what they'll continue to do.....Why not use a late picks the guy and not have to worry about getting him as an UDFA. I hope they keep taking chances on guys like that rather then drafting a career backup at best instead. |
I like that idea as well, but I think the type of "character issues" are very important. I'm not sure Mathieu qualifies... |
the guy just likes to smoke a lot, he isn't a jerkoff or anything. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5IGRxwDh_U
I would draft him after the 5th round.
I'm supposed to risk a high pick on a person who couldn't stop smoking even when his future depended on it? A guy who couldn't pass a drug test to save his career? I'm supposed to trust that he will be dedicated to my team? I'm supposed to expect him to stop smoking now? _________________
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killdawabbit 
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:14 am Post subject: |
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RollEagles wrote: | willy_law wrote: | killdawabbit wrote: | Kiltman wrote: | Nabbs4u wrote: | I'd easily take a flier on the Badger if he is still on the board after the 6th rd. No different IMO then taking a flier on a RB in the 7th rd with limited college experience, supposed character issues but a huge upside. Nothing wrong with talented players being given a chance with a late rd pick. No guarantees as a UDFA. Worse case he's our ST return man. Best case he not only is that but eventually turns out to be a assett in the secondary as well. Not like we have anyone lighting the world on fire in either phase. |
Exactly...I hope Bryce is a model for what they'll continue to do.....Why not use a late picks the guy and not have to worry about getting him as an UDFA. I hope they keep taking chances on guys like that rather then drafting a career backup at best instead. |
I like that idea as well, but I think the type of "character issues" are very important. I'm not sure Mathieu qualifies... |
the guy just likes to smoke a lot, he isn't a jerkoff or anything. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5IGRxwDh_U
I would draft him after the 5th round.
I'm supposed to risk a high pick on a person who couldn't stop smoking even when his future depended on it? A guy who couldn't pass a drug test to save his career? I'm supposed to trust that he will be dedicated to my team? I'm supposed to expect him to stop smoking now? |
Well that's kind of the issue. I couldn't care less about the actual smoking part. It's the fact that he knew he wasn't supposed to, that his spot on the team was on the line, and he still did it.
That and I think he's mildly overrated talent-wise. The comparison to Harris wasn't as far off as people think. Don't forget, before the draft a whole lot of people thought Macho would be a stud. |
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Nabbs4u 
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 28998 Location: 1st Ballot Eagles HOF 3x Gold Standard 09' /10 '/11' 2X ENBD/Pick em Winner Kiltman on the Sig
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:27 am Post subject: |
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Without going to in depth on a subject were not suppose to talk about. Let's not pretend that there are not current NFL players doing exactly that. They too are putting their jobs on the line. Didn't Randy Moss and Warren Sapp too have the same concerns coming out? I'm not suggesting he has that type of talent more so that teams intentionally passed on those players do to that concern. I think the general public would be amazed at the number of athletes in the NFL with a substance abuse problem. Many of which are big named players. We not talking about drafting a player in the first 4 rds but in the later stages of the draft. Badger is electric as a KR/PR thats undeniable and without question. That alone is worth the chance IMO. Yes he has flaws in his game from a defensive standpoint but not to the point it out weighs the positives IMO. I'd rather take a flier on a kid with a higher upside and questionable off the field issues then going with the less talented square peg the Eagles tend to try to fit in a round hole like Kurt Coleman in the 6th/7th. _________________
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RainbowCarebear 
Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 40372 Location: "Are you hungry, child?" Yes, she thought, but not for food.
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:44 am Post subject: |
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HB in 5th round the earliest.
I Think we almost have to go QB in round 1 _________________
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marky_b27 
 Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 26053 Location: Nottingham, England
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:53 am Post subject: |
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We don't need the Honey Badger. We have just drafted someone in the position he projects to (slot corner). _________________
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RainbowCarebear 
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:58 am Post subject: |
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marky_b27 wrote: | We don't need the Honey Badger. We have just drafted someone in the position he projects to (slot corner). |
He could SS as Well. And you dont draft for need
Just get him and if he plays Well, get him on the field _________________
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marky_b27 
 Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 26053 Location: Nottingham, England
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:28 am Post subject: |
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RainbowCarebear wrote: | marky_b27 wrote: | We don't need the Honey Badger. We have just drafted someone in the position he projects to (slot corner). |
He could SS as Well. And you dont draft for need
Just get him and if he plays Well, get him on the field |
Yeh, you draft BPA (which I've been saying we should do the last 3 years).
Anyway, Mattheiu hasn't really got a real position in the NFL - too small for S, too slow for CB _________________
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Meco 
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:48 am Post subject: |
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I feel like we're being too hard on Tyrann. The guy was the biggest playmaker and tone setter for the entire LSU team last year. The guy has "it" when he's on the field but he completely loses the "it" factor once he steps off of it. He's dirty and physical as all hell. He's a big time talker who knows how to get under peoples skin. And he's an incredible return specialist. He could be a star nickel corner or safety IMO if he kept his off the field stuff in line. He's the sort of player who would come in and give a defense an edge immeadiately. If he went to the Bears (perfect fit for him IMO), I'd be pretty mad because he'd fit them like a glove. _________________
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