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Silver&Black88


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Dessie wrote:
Raidin wrote:
MLB and leaders are over-rated tbh. Give me play-makers instead.


Amen to that. This team needs playmakers on defense. LB's in a 4-3 defense are ten a penny.


yea and he isnt rey Cool


MLBs like him aren't worth picking even in the second round, brah Laughing


rey played better than anyone we had on defense yesterday, brah Very Happy


False. Joselio Hanson. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Dessie wrote:
Raidin wrote:
MLB and leaders are over-rated tbh. Give me play-makers instead.


Amen to that. This team needs playmakers on defense. LB's in a 4-3 defense are ten a penny.


yea and he isnt rey Cool


True. I highly doubt Teo is trying to pound out teenagers like Rey.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Dessie wrote:
Raidin wrote:
MLB and leaders are over-rated tbh. Give me play-makers instead.


Amen to that. This team needs playmakers on defense. LB's in a 4-3 defense are ten a penny.


yea and he isnt rey Cool


MLBs like him aren't worth picking even in the second round, brah Laughing


rey played better than anyone we had on defense yesterday, brah Very Happy


False. Joselio Hanson. Cool


why cause he made the play that didnt count? Laughing
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NCOUGHMAN > all of you


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This is football, not pussology 101
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justwinbaby81 wrote:
NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Dessie wrote:
Raidin wrote:
MLB and leaders are over-rated tbh. Give me play-makers instead.


Amen to that. This team needs playmakers on defense. LB's in a 4-3 defense are ten a penny.


yea and he isnt rey Cool


True. I highly doubt Teo is trying to pound out teenagers like Rey.


naw he likes the business lady type


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only way taking Te'o makes any kind of sense would be if we're planning on switching full-time to the 3-4 defense. And even then we can find an inside linebacker later on in the draft and would need to address our lack of a 3-4 rush linebacker in the first round with a guy live Jones or Mingo.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Dessie wrote:
Raidin wrote:
MLB and leaders are over-rated tbh. Give me play-makers instead.


Amen to that. This team needs playmakers on defense. LB's in a 4-3 defense are ten a penny.


yea and he isnt rey Cool


MLBs like him aren't worth picking even in the second round, brah Laughing


rey played better than anyone we had on defense yesterday, brah Very Happy


False. Joselio Hanson. Cool


why cause he made the play that didnt count? Laughing



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Dessie wrote:
Raidin wrote:
MLB and leaders are over-rated tbh. Give me play-makers instead.


Amen to that. This team needs playmakers on defense. LB's in a 4-3 defense are ten a penny.


yea and he isnt rey Cool


MLBs like him aren't worth picking even in the second round, brah Laughing


rey played better than anyone we had on defense yesterday, brah Very Happy


False. Joselio Hanson. Cool


why cause he made the play that didnt count? Laughing





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NCOUGHMAN wrote:
justwinbaby81 wrote:
NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Dessie wrote:
Raidin wrote:
MLB and leaders are over-rated tbh. Give me play-makers instead.


Amen to that. This team needs playmakers on defense. LB's in a 4-3 defense are ten a penny.


yea and he isnt rey Cool


True. I highly doubt Teo is trying to pound out teenagers like Rey.


naw he likes the business lady type



Thats Erin Andrews. Shes got flat buns.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't mind adding Teo, but the truth is we need pass rushers. We could find a mlb later on in the draft or potentially try Burris there. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we spent two picks on pass rushers nor would I be disappointed.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give me a great pass rusher over a great MLB any day of the week. It would be one thing if our D-line were pretty much set, then going after Teo would make sense, but its not. Build from the trenches out on both sides of the ball.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Manti Te'o Reply with quote

attack_in_s/b wrote:
Watched the ND vs. USC game last night and wow, i am totally in awe of how good this guy is. I was suspect of taking another MLB in the first round, but wow, almost tempted to say this guy is a can't miss prospect. He's got the intensity, the leadership ability, he's an impact player and puts the team on his back...

there's a reason he's the first defensive player to be nominated for a heisman since Woodson...
Yeah, it's called having the best front 7 in college football

IMO on defense it starts with LB's... for as bad as we are defensively i gotta say, having Burris and Te'o in the middle seems like as good a way as any to start rebuilding.
Fundamental football. Build from the trenches out

IMO pass rushers are much easier to find than an elite MLB... there's a reason that the list of elite pass rushers is much longer than the list of elite MLB's...
The list of elite pass rushers is longer because they are more important and get more exposure. How long is the list of elite kickers? Kickers impact the outcome of EVERY game yet kickers aren't drafted high.

What do you guys think of him? Worth a 1st rounder? How high will he go?
Mid-1st based on need


Honestly, most of us couldn't name the MLB for last 10 Super Bowl winners off the top of their head, yet given the team you would probably remember the edge rusher.
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(on building inside out) teams without highly draft DT's make the playoffs and win the superbowl regularly.

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Teams that win Superbowls and make the playoffs aren't picking in the Top 5, clearly
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Manti Te'o Reply with quote

Baggabonez wrote:
attack_in_s/b wrote:
Watched the ND vs. USC game last night and wow, i am totally in awe of how good this guy is. I was suspect of taking another MLB in the first round, but wow, almost tempted to say this guy is a can't miss prospect. He's got the intensity, the leadership ability, he's an impact player and puts the team on his back...

there's a reason he's the first defensive player to be nominated for a heisman since Woodson...
Yeah, it's called having the best front 7 in college football

IMO on defense it starts with LB's... for as bad as we are defensively i gotta say, having Burris and Te'o in the middle seems like as good a way as any to start rebuilding.
Fundamental football. Build from the trenches out

IMO pass rushers are much easier to find than an elite MLB... there's a reason that the list of elite pass rushers is much longer than the list of elite MLB's...
The list of elite pass rushers is longer because they are more important and get more exposure. How long is the list of elite kickers? Kickers impact the outcome of EVERY game yet kickers aren't drafted high.

What do you guys think of him? Worth a 1st rounder? How high will he go?
Mid-1st based on need


Honestly, most of us couldn't name the MLB for last 10 Super Bowl winners off the top of their head, yet given the team you would probably remember the edge rusher.


Couldn't you say the same for a position like left tackle? Kind of a weird argument to make.

Names aren't everything, and that's kind of why were in the mess we are in now. Too many (lol, kind of) skill position players and not enough hogs.

Edit: I do see you pretty much said that too, my bad. I think it's pretty obvious that based on need it lies at o-line or d-line, and it helps that we have no chance at Geno Smith. Like I said earlier though, we could do a lot worse than Te'o.

Anyone have any insight as to how well he would fit into a 3-4 defense? Just curious.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a MLB.
He might not be what we wanted, but it's not a need like PASS RUSH or blocking, maybe a CB depending on FA

It's the same thought process with QB. We've got one who's good enough, so unless it's a QB that you can't pass up...
I don't like high picks on LB's, S's or TE's...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now we are headed towards a top-5 selection. If we used that on a MLB, it would be an immense failure. We can't go another season where every QB we face has time to tie his shoelaces before he throws the ball. Do you guys even remember how good we let Gabbert look a few weeks ago? I don't care who your MLB is, you don't win games when you let QBs like Gabbert walk all over you. Lucky for us he couldn't finish the game. Even if we traded back I would want a pass rusher in the 1st.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seeing the Raiders only have 4 draft picks hopefully they trade back pick up more picks, then make the pick count when they use it.
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