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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I thought he just had a pretty good game against one of the best D's in the league


2.9 ypc?

I know it's the Steelers D, but damn.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Honestly, I don't like what I see. He doesn't hit a hole hard, and doesn't make a decision until a hole closes. That said, he's a better blocker and receiver than I thought he'd be, but he gets paid to run moreso than catch.


Last time I called Trent out on this forum he shut me up, but seriously dude still doesn't hit the hole like he needs to. He thinks he's Barry Sanders or something.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In today's game (was there) there were four problems with the way Richardson was used: (1) The D knew the play was to run him...hell, everyone in the stadium knew; and (2) He often was hit behind, at or just over the LOS by unblocked defenders.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
I thought he just had a pretty good game against one of the best D's in the league


2.9 ypc?

I know it's the Steelers D, but damn.
I'll take over 100 APY from my back every week
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
I thought he just had a pretty good game against one of the best D's in the league


2.9 ypc?

I know it's the Steelers D, but damn.


He scored the game winning TD and we are complaining? On a win against the Steelers? Really?

If he runs for 2.9 ypc and we beat the steelers every time, so be it.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruceb wrote:
In today's game (was there) there were four problems with the way Richardson was used: (1) The D knew the play was to run him...hell, everyone in the stadium knew; and (2) He often was hit behind, at or just over the LOS by unblocked defenders.



Agree with this for sure.

Not sure where the #4 came from lol
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruceb wrote:
In today's game (was there) there were four problems with the way Richardson was used: (1) The D knew the play was to run him...hell, everyone in the stadium knew; and (2) He often was hit behind, at or just over the LOS by unblocked defenders.



Agree with this for sure.

Not sure where the #4 came from lol


I was going to weave in play-calling and lack of an effective passing game but realized they were redundant or causative and didn't go back and change it to two.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw: Found it ironic that on one run that he was hit for no gain by two unblocked defenders, an old (or at least older than me, I think) guy sitting near us said: "Jim Brown couldn't run against that".
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trent's stats aren't helped by the play calling. Colt comes in the game with a chance to close out the game with a first down or two. and we run the same lame RB up the middle play 3 times in a row.

Trent gains good yardage almost every time the browns run a toss sweep or a little dump screen to the RB. why we don't do more of this is beyond me.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part of it is that we are too predictable, enough for teams to run blitz when they know we are going to run. Until we start gashing people consistently in the passing game, people are going to sell out to stop our running game....
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Ether wrote:
Badly want to see him in another offense. However he is still overly patient sometimes, I think we should be getting Hardesty more carries a game to keep Richardson more fresh and aggressive with his opportunities.


Yeah, the fact that Hardesty had 2 carries and Richardson had 28 today was awful.

I could see it if Richardson was ripping off 6-7 yards per carry and killing the D, but he wasn't.

Should have been 20 to 10 ish IMO.


Hardesty looked explosive, has for the last few games. However, on a day where the football was hard to hold on to I didn't want to see him carrying the rock. He does have a fumbling issue, and he eventually would have been hit hard. I think he needs to prove he can take care of the football before he gets carries in a tight defensive game, if T-Rich is healthy.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
bruceb wrote:
In today's game (was there) there were four problems with the way Richardson was used: (1) The D knew the play was to run him...hell, everyone in the stadium knew; and (2) He often was hit behind, at or just over the LOS by unblocked defenders.



Agree with this for sure.

Not sure where the #4 came from lol


What the hell is happening?

I agreed with Bruce in one thread.

He agreed with Mistake in another.

now Nug is agreeing with him here (as do I, big time)..

The world is ending.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
nugpimpen wrote:
bruceb wrote:
In today's game (was there) there were four problems with the way Richardson was used: (1) The D knew the play was to run him...hell, everyone in the stadium knew; and (2) He often was hit behind, at or just over the LOS by unblocked defenders.



Agree with this for sure.

Not sure where the #4 came from lol


What the hell is happening?

I agreed with Bruce in one thread.

He agreed with Mistake in another.

now Nug is agreeing with him here (as do I, big time)..

The world is ending.


Probably precursers of those damned Mayan prophosies or something else completely different.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's a rookie runner playing a team without much of a passing threat. I don't know what people expect from Trent Richardson this season, but nobody's averaging 5 yards per carry in his situation. Give him a year and put some guys around him, and he's a pro bowl caliber back.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simply put, no. Jim Brown was wrong.

He is special. Due to a number of circumstances (injuries, rookie-laden offense, lame duck head coach, et. al.), he is not able to fully showcase his abilities. But when he gets the ball, people move forward in their seats.
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