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Says the Gator thumper. Go figure. Rolling Eyes


I have no problem with Deion Sanders or Sebastian Janikowski. So I don't know what me being a Gator has to do with it. EJ is an awful decision maker. No thanks.
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Until they prove otherwise, I'm leery of all USC QBs. Just as I am LSU D-Lineman and Michigan WRs.
and anybody from Florida!

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I'm trying to think of anyone other than Harvin that has come from Florida (recently) and I can't think of anyone. The only one I can think of is maybe Brandon Spikes.
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Until they prove otherwise, I'm leery of all USC QBs. Just as I am LSU D-Lineman and Michigan WRs.
and anybody from Florida!

Twisted Evil


I'm trying to think of anyone other than Harvin that has come from Florida (recently) and I can't think of anyone. The only one I can think of is maybe Brandon Spikes.


Joe Haden is very angry with you. And the Pounceys want to know where you live. Hernandez has been nice as well.

But yeah, for so long UF ran the Spread that our players were not worth a damn in the Pros. I expect under Coach Boom that will begin to improve.
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I have no issues with trying to find our next stud QB, I just really don't think Barkley is that guy. This is less Aaron Rodgers and more Brady Quinn, IMO. He's dropping for good reason.


I completely agree. Barkley's physical limitations were exposed this season, and I think it will cause him to drop to the 3rd or 4th round. He has very average arm strength, no athletic ability to speak of, and throws a ton of really bad interceptions when placed under pressure.

Don't get me wrong; I wouldn't complain if we selected him in the 4th round if we had a very productive first three rounds. I think the value would be sound, but I really don't expect much from him as anything other than a solid player who will spend the brunt of his career as a backup....unless Sean Payton is our head coach. I think he'd be able to create a system where Barkley could flourish.

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The only QBs who really intrigue me this year are Tyler Wilson, Tyler Bray, and Zac Dysert.
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The only QBs who really intrigue me this year are Tyler Wilson, Tyler Bray, and Zac Dysert.


I think this is a really weak class. I only like Wilson and Dysert. And even then only marginally.
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EDIT:

The only QBs who really intrigue me this year are Tyler Wilson, Tyler Bray, and Zac Dysert.


I think this is a really weak class. I only like Wilson and Dysert. And even then only marginally.


It is a very weak QB class, yes.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year I had Barkley as my #2 QB and after this season I would still rank him that high i would be shocked if he dropped out of the top 10. Kid is legit.
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Last year I had Barkley as my #2 QB and after this season I would still rank him that high i would be shocked if he dropped out of the top 10. Kid is legit.


By legit, what QB do you think hes similar too in the NFL? I didn't see him being that much of a lock
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Last year I had Barkley as my #2 QB and after this season I would still rank him that high i would be shocked if he dropped out of the top 10. Kid is legit.


By legit, what QB do you think hes similar too in the NFL? I didn't see him being that much of a lock


Brees with a weaker arm comes to my mind. But more of Brees in SD than Brees in NOLA
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Tony7188 wrote:
JWingate wrote:
Last year I had Barkley as my #2 QB and after this season I would still rank him that high i would be shocked if he dropped out of the top 10. Kid is legit.


By legit, what QB do you think hes similar too in the NFL? I didn't see him being that much of a lock


Brees with a weaker arm comes to my mind. But more of Brees in SD than Brees in NOLA


Well that would work perfect. We hire Sean, draft Barkley and he turns into Brees 2.0 Laughing
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flyingmonkey30 wrote:
Tony7188 wrote:
JWingate wrote:
Last year I had Barkley as my #2 QB and after this season I would still rank him that high i would be shocked if he dropped out of the top 10. Kid is legit.


By legit, what QB do you think hes similar too in the NFL? I didn't see him being that much of a lock


Brees with a weaker arm comes to my mind. But more of Brees in SD than Brees in NOLA

Honestly, I couldn't think of one but that is a perfect player comparison.
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Texas_OutLaw7 wrote:
ware94 wrote:
textaz03 wrote:
ware94 wrote:
Until they prove otherwise, I'm leery of all USC QBs. Just as I am LSU D-Lineman and Michigan WRs.
and anybody from Florida!

Twisted Evil


I'm trying to think of anyone other than Harvin that has come from Florida (recently) and I can't think of anyone. The only one I can think of is maybe Brandon Spikes.


Joe Haden is very angry with you. And the Pounceys want to know where you live. Hernandez has been nice as well.

But yeah, for so long UF ran the Spread that our players were not worth a damn in the Pros. I expect under Coach Boom that will begin to improve.


Ah, you got me!
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JWingate wrote:
flyingmonkey30 wrote:
Tony7188 wrote:
JWingate wrote:
Last year I had Barkley as my #2 QB and after this season I would still rank him that high i would be shocked if he dropped out of the top 10. Kid is legit.


By legit, what QB do you think hes similar too in the NFL? I didn't see him being that much of a lock


Brees with a weaker arm comes to my mind. But more of Brees in SD than Brees in NOLA

Honestly, I couldn't think of one but that is a perfect player comparison.


No, it really isn't. Brees is much more athletic than Barkley. Brees is shifty, where Barkley is very flat footed. Brees is also 3 inches shorter than Barkley, but he has a stronger arm.
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plan9misfit wrote:
Nextyearfordaboyz wrote:
I have no issues with trying to find our next stud QB, I just really don't think Barkley is that guy. This is less Aaron Rodgers and more Brady Quinn, IMO. He's dropping for good reason.


I completely agree. Barkley's physical limitations were exposed this season, and I think it will cause him to drop to the 3rd or 4th round. He has very average arm strength, no athletic ability to speak of, and throws a ton of really bad interceptions when placed under pressure.

Don't get me wrong; I wouldn't complain if we selected him in the 4th round if we had a very productive first three rounds. I think the value would be sound, but I really don't expect much from him as anything other than a solid player who will spend the brunt of his career as a backup....unless Sean Payton is our head coach. I think he'd be able to create a system where Barkley could flourish.

EDIT:

The only QBs who really intrigue me this year are Tyler Wilson, Tyler Bray, and Zac Dysert.


So, your good with picking a QB in the 4th who you think is gonna spend his carreer as a backup?? whats the point in that? We need to draft a player who gonna be our future Starter! Hell, we can find an UDFA to do that.
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PincheJimmy wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
Nextyearfordaboyz wrote:
I have no issues with trying to find our next stud QB, I just really don't think Barkley is that guy. This is less Aaron Rodgers and more Brady Quinn, IMO. He's dropping for good reason.


I completely agree. Barkley's physical limitations were exposed this season, and I think it will cause him to drop to the 3rd or 4th round. He has very average arm strength, no athletic ability to speak of, and throws a ton of really bad interceptions when placed under pressure.

Don't get me wrong; I wouldn't complain if we selected him in the 4th round if we had a very productive first three rounds. I think the value would be sound, but I really don't expect much from him as anything other than a solid player who will spend the brunt of his career as a backup....unless Sean Payton is our head coach. I think he'd be able to create a system where Barkley could flourish.

EDIT:

The only QBs who really intrigue me this year are Tyler Wilson, Tyler Bray, and Zac Dysert.


So, your good with picking a QB in the 4th who you think is gonna spend his carreer as a backup?? whats the point in that? We need to draft a player who gonna be our future Starter! Hell, we can find an UDFA to do that.


It's risks and rewards. There is a chance a player can develop into something greater. So you take a marginal risk for a potential great return. But when you have little confidence in actually attaining success - it is difficult to justify spending a premium pick on said player.

In the draft, there are no guarantees.
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