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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MSURacerDT55 wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
I have no way of determining if the kick is intentional or not.

I simply have no idea. The only time it looks like it may be intentional is in slow motion but as mentioned the game is played at real speed.

Having played contact sports for many years I can tell you a player isn't always in control of their limbs and some movements are reflex.

If players had complete control there would be far less sprains, strains and breaks.



It was premeditated according to some lol


I just don't know how a definite conclusion can be drawn.



I'm not even sure how some fan bases can comment so boldly.

He is not killing dogs (Vick), trafficking drugs (Jolly), beating his wife (Gb scrub), involved in murder charges (Lewis), raping charges and paying off other party ( Big Ben), shooting himself (Burress) and list goes on


Such hypocritical bush league crap on here in general


Shocked Arrow Eh? Arrow Rolling Eyes




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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
I have no way of determining if the kick is intentional or not.

I simply have no idea. The only time it looks like it may be intentional is in slow motion but as mentioned the game is played at real speed.

Having played contact sports for many years I can tell you a player isn't always in control of their limbs and some movements are reflex.

If players had complete control there would be far less sprains, strains and breaks.



It was premeditated according to some lol




I just don't know how a definite conclusion can be drawn.



I'm not even sure how some fan bases can comment so boldly.

He is not killing dogs (Vick), trafficking drugs (Jolly), beating his wife (Gb scrub), involved in murder charges (Lewis), raping charges and paying off other party ( Big Ben), shooting himself (Burress) and list goes on


Such hypocritical bush league crap on here in general


Troll is obvious. Those have no correlation to the league hating Suh for his on field behavior. Stop trolling.

Suh is criticized for the obvious acts of undisciplined frustration. There's no connection to those listed.

Also, you can't talk about opposing fan bases Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Troll is obvious.



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralFC wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
I have no way of determining if the kick is intentional or not.

I simply have no idea. The only time it looks like it may be intentional is in slow motion but as mentioned the game is played at real speed.

Having played contact sports for many years I can tell you a player isn't always in control of their limbs and some movements are reflex.

If players had complete control there would be far less sprains, strains and breaks.



It was premeditated according to some lol




I just don't know how a definite conclusion can be drawn.



I'm not even sure how some fan bases can comment so boldly.

He is not killing dogs (Vick), trafficking drugs (Jolly), beating his wife (Gb scrub), involved in murder charges (Lewis), raping charges and paying off other party ( Big Ben), shooting himself (Burress) and list goes on


Such hypocritical bush league crap on here in general


Troll is obvious. Those have no correlation to the league hating Suh for his on field behavior. Stop trolling.

Suh is criticized for the obvious acts of undisciplined frustration. There's no connection to those listed.

Also, you can't talk about opposing fan bases Wink


Except this is is far from an obvious act and some of the discipline levelled at Suh previously has been ridiculous.

His actions were so OBVIOUS he wasn't penalized. Rolling Eyes

So, perhaps you need to rethink this comment about trolling. It's highly unlikely a Lions fan is trolling within his own forum. That role is usually gleefully undertaken by a group of individuals that have a predisposition to regaling us all with stories of grid iron supremacy, fair play and unquestioned greatness. Wink they are frequently observed in this humble corner of cyber space wearing rose coloured glasses which clash terribly with the ugly colours of their teams jersey which contains the colours rightfully reserved for mouldy cheese.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diehardlionfan wrote:


So, perhaps you need to rethink this comment about trolling. It's highly unlikely a Lions fan is trolling within his own forum. That role is usually gleefully undertaken by a group of individuals that have a predisposition to regaling us all with stories of grid iron supremacy, fair play and unquestioned greatness. Wink they are frequently observed in this humble corner of cyber space wearing rose coloured glasses which clash terribly with the ugly colours of their teams jersey which contains the colours rightfully reserved for mouldy cheese.


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To me it was intentional. Did he want a groin shot? Yes but he looked to be happy with just kicking him. Suh hit paydirt and was happy with the result. This is the type of player I think Suh will be-cheap and aggressive.

I doubt he gets suspended though.

I could care less what we do with him.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
I have no way of determining if the kick is intentional or not.

I simply have no idea. The only time it looks like it may be intentional is in slow motion but as mentioned the game is played at real speed.

Having played contact sports for many years I can tell you a player isn't always in control of their limbs and some movements are reflex.

If players had complete control there would be far less sprains, strains and breaks.



It was premeditated according to some lol


I just don't know how a definite conclusion can be drawn.



I'm not even sure how some fan bases can comment so boldly.

He is not killing dogs (Vick), trafficking drugs (Jolly), beating his wife (Gb scrub), involved in murder charges (Lewis), raping charges and paying off other party ( Big Ben), shooting himself (Burress) and list goes on


Jolly was guilty of codeine POSSESSION. You repeating the trafficking story just won't make it true.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
I have no way of determining if the kick is intentional or not.

I simply have no idea. The only time it looks like it may be intentional is in slow motion but as mentioned the game is played at real speed.

Having played contact sports for many years I can tell you a player isn't always in control of their limbs and some movements are reflex.

If players had complete control there would be far less sprains, strains and breaks.



It was premeditated according to some lol


I just don't know how a definite conclusion can be drawn.



I'm not even sure how some fan bases can comment so boldly.

He is not killing dogs (Vick), trafficking drugs (Jolly), beating his wife (Gb scrub), involved in murder charges (Lewis), raping charges and paying off other party ( Big Ben), shooting himself (Burress) and list goes on


Jolly was guilty of codeine POSSESSION. You repeating the trafficking story just won't make it true.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

th87 wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
I have no way of determining if the kick is intentional or not.

I simply have no idea. The only time it looks like it may be intentional is in slow motion but as mentioned the game is played at real speed.

Having played contact sports for many years I can tell you a player isn't always in control of their limbs and some movements are reflex.

If players had complete control there would be far less sprains, strains and breaks.



It was premeditated according to some lol


I just don't know how a definite conclusion can be drawn.



I'm not even sure how some fan bases can comment so boldly.

He is not killing dogs (Vick), trafficking drugs (Jolly), beating his wife (Gb scrub), involved in murder charges (Lewis), raping charges and paying off other party ( Big Ben), shooting himself (Burress) and list goes on


Jolly was guilty of codeine POSSESSION. You repeating the trafficking story just won't make it true.
And fans claiming Suh intentionally kicked Schaub in the groin, based off an inconclusive gif or video doesn't make it true either.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

38andy38 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:


So, perhaps you need to rethink this comment about trolling. It's highly unlikely a Lions fan is trolling within his own forum. That role is usually gleefully undertaken by a group of individuals that have a predisposition to regaling us all with stories of grid iron supremacy, fair play and unquestioned greatness. Wink they are frequently observed in this humble corner of cyber space wearing rose coloured glasses which clash terribly with the ugly colours of their teams jersey which contains the colours rightfully reserved for mouldy cheese.


Beautiful just beautiful.......brought a tear to my eye. Maybe no greater prose has been penned on this site. Applause


Thank you. Thank you very much. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Troll is obvious.




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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

th87 wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
I have no way of determining if the kick is intentional or not.

I simply have no idea. The only time it looks like it may be intentional is in slow motion but as mentioned the game is played at real speed.

Having played contact sports for many years I can tell you a player isn't always in control of their limbs and some movements are reflex.

If players had complete control there would be far less sprains, strains and breaks.



It was premeditated according to some lol


I just don't know how a definite conclusion can be drawn.



I'm not even sure how some fan bases can comment so boldly.

He is not killing dogs (Vick), trafficking drugs (Jolly), beating his wife (Gb scrub), involved in murder charges (Lewis), raping charges and paying off other party ( Big Ben), shooting himself (Burress) and list goes on


Jolly was guilty of codeine POSSESSION. You repeating the trafficking story just won't make it true.


He was charged with possession of a controlled substance with intent to distribute. 600 grams of codeine in his car certainly wasn't for personal use.

The fact that legal maneuvering and a plea deal to avoid further public expense resulted in guilt of lesser charges doesn't void the truth.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diehardlionfan wrote:
CentralFC wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
I have no way of determining if the kick is intentional or not.

I simply have no idea. The only time it looks like it may be intentional is in slow motion but as mentioned the game is played at real speed.

Having played contact sports for many years I can tell you a player isn't always in control of their limbs and some movements are reflex.

If players had complete control there would be far less sprains, strains and breaks.



It was premeditated according to some lol




I just don't know how a definite conclusion can be drawn.



I'm not even sure how some fan bases can comment so boldly.

He is not killing dogs (Vick), trafficking drugs (Jolly), beating his wife (Gb scrub), involved in murder charges (Lewis), raping charges and paying off other party ( Big Ben), shooting himself (Burress) and list goes on


Such hypocritical bush league crap on here in general


Troll is obvious. Those have no correlation to the league hating Suh for his on field behavior. Stop trolling.

Suh is criticized for the obvious acts of undisciplined frustration. There's no connection to those listed.

Also, you can't talk about opposing fan bases Wink


Except this is is far from an obvious act and some of the discipline levelled at Suh previously has been ridiculous.

His actions were so OBVIOUS he wasn't penalized. Rolling Eyes

So, perhaps you need to rethink this comment about trolling. It's highly unlikely a Lions fan is trolling within his own forum. That role is usually gleefully undertaken by a group of individuals that have a predisposition to regaling us all with stories of grid iron supremacy, fair play and unquestioned greatness. Wink they are frequently observed in this humble corner of cyber space wearing rose coloured glasses which clash terribly with the ugly colours of their teams jersey which contains the colours rightfully reserved for mouldy cheese.


Common sense says I wasnt trolling but then common sense is also seeing there is no way he intentionally kicked him in junk. Kick in that direction no doubt. To actually hit him given all the factors of movement etc is beyond amazing luck
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drop the talk about Trolling and focus on the topic at hand, please.

Don't talk about other fan bases and try to keep the conversation as relevant as possible as the kick pertains to the Thanksgiving game and why or why not you think it was/was not intentional.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No suspension for Suh.

They must have looked at it gamespeed, and not slowed down for dramatic effect.
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