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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:39 pm    Post subject: Should we make a Trade for Jake Long? Reply with quote

Looking at some chat rooms by Dolphins fans it seems they are not to happy with him... Why not bring him home? In some chats I saw fans saying they would let him go for a 2nd-3rd Rounder.

Would you guys at all be interested in Tradeing a 2nd/3rd for him? Or we could make a player swap cause I know they need a DE bad so Cliff Avril for Jake Long? What do you guys think?


OL Depth Chart

LT- Jake Long - Jason Fox
LG- Rob Sims - Stephen Peterman
C Bill Nagy - Dominic Raiola
RG Jeff Backus - Dylan Gandy
RT Riley Reiff - Gosder Cherilus
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
LT- Jake Long - Jason Fox
LG- Rob Sims - Stephen Peterman
C Bill Nagy - Dominic Raiola
RG Jeff Backus - Dylan Gandy
RT Riley Reiff - Gosder Cherilus


While I like the idea of grabbing long there is a problem. The only way we can trade for Long is if they franchise tag him. This would give him IIRC a 15 million dollar contract. Backus would be getting 5 million to switch positions. Raiola would be getting 4 million to back up Nagy. Peterman would be getting over 2 million to back up Sims. Cherilus signs a multimillion dollar deal to be a backup?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since it is the Dolphins fans saying they would take a 2d rounder for him and not the front office, I don't put much stock in that. While he is still one of the better LTs in the game, He is a 7-year veteran. If we were a LT away from making a serious playoff-super bowl run it might be worthwhile but we are not in that position.

As far as Cliff Avril goes, I don't see him signing a new contract just to facilitate a trade when he is going to be an UFA.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, yeah.

Raoila and Peterman can be cut no penalties. Goz wouldn't have to come back. Only problem would be the contract so he doesn't play on the tag.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'd bring him in for a 2nd round draft pick EASILY. Idk what to do with Backus for a year but who cares?

Long-Sims-???-Reiff-Backus wouldn't be too terrible. You could even put Dominic Ravioli back in C and I think we'd be ok.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why we don't make the trade:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/24/jake-longs-decline-creates-dilemma-for-dolphins/

Jake Long isn't the player he was a few years ago and he may or may not be able to get back there.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WillParks wrote:
This is why we don't make the trade:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/24/jake-longs-decline-creates-dilemma-for-dolphins/

Jake Long isn't the player he was a few years ago and he may or may not be able to get back there.


Plus I'm pretty excited to see what we have in Reiff. Given Long's decline I'd much rather develop Reiff.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WillParks wrote:
This is why we don't make the trade:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/24/jake-longs-decline-creates-dilemma-for-dolphins/

Jake Long isn't the player he was a few years ago and he may or may not be able to get back there.

So you don't trade for him because a journalist expressed in an opinion piece that he may only be top 5 LT now and not the best? How easy do you think it would be to remain the best at a position where the only way to judge their performance is by the eye test?

Yes, if for some unlikely circumstance Jake Long becomes available, you absolutely make a trade for him.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am old friends with a girl that dated Long in high school. She's fugly. Jake Long is a fugly chubby chaser. I want nothing to do with that. Pass.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="FootballPhreak"][quote="WillParks"]This is why we don't make the trade:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/24/jake-longs-decline-creates-dilemma-for-dolphins/

Jake Long isn't the player he was a few years ago and he may or may not be able to get back there.[/quote]
So you don't trade for him because a journalist expressed in an opinion piece that he may only be top 5 LT now and not the best? How easy do you think it would be to remain the best at a position where the only way to judge their performance is by the eye test?

Yes, if for some unlikely circumstance Jake Long becomes available, you absolutely make a trade for him.[/quote]


If you read the article it says he isn't even one of the best LTs in his division anymore. Is Jake Long still one of the top 5 LTs in the NFL at this point? Probably not.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WillParks wrote:
If you read the article it says he isn't even one of the best LTs in his division anymore. Is Jake Long still one of the top 5 LTs in the NFL at this point? Probably not.

If you read the article, a JOURNALIST offers the opinion with TWO examples of players that MAY be better than Long. So, even in his opinion, Long is likely a top 5 LT, and that is from a guy trying to bag on him and really has no more trustworthiness on the subject than you or I.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LionsFTW wrote:
I am old friends with a girl that dated Long in high school. She's fugly. Jake Long is a fugly chubby chaser. I want nothing to do with that. Pass.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IDOG_det wrote:
LionsFTW wrote:
I am old friends with a girl that dated Long in high school. She's fugly. Jake Long is a fugly chubby chaser. I want nothing to do with that. Pass.
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Best reason I've heard so far.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FootballPhreak wrote:
IDOG_det wrote:
LionsFTW wrote:
I am old friends with a girl that dated Long in high school. She's fugly. Jake Long is a fugly chubby chaser. I want nothing to do with that. Pass.
Laughing

Best reason I've heard so far.
Exactly, no need for distractions like those Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the value of LT is vastly over rated. Teams just move the blitzed around to exploit the weak part of the line anyway.
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