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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeneralTso wrote:
If Gunther doesn't come under fire after this game Idk what it'll take.


Not like we provided him any help last season on defense. It's a problem when your big acquisitions to bolster a defense that feel apart last season where Bill Bentley, Drayton Florence and Jacob Lacey.

He's just doing the best he can with the little he's been given.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gunther did just fine. We played a great defensive game against a great offensive team.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LionsFan630 wrote:
GeneralTso wrote:
If Gunther doesn't come under fire after this game Idk what it'll take.


Not like we provided him any help last season on defense. It's a problem when your big acquisitions to bolster a defense that feel apart last season where Bill Bentley, Drayton Florence and Jacob Lacey.

He's just doing the best he can with the little he's been given.
well, to be fair, Florence has actually been good when he has played.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gave up 34 points.

I don't care what offense you're playing, that's not a good game defensively.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeneralTso wrote:
Gave up 34 points.

I don't care what offense you're playing, that's not a good game defensively.


We gave up 27 points, 24 of those in regulation. Aside from a few big plays the defense played pretty well.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeneralTso wrote:
Gave up 34 points.

I don't care what offense you're playing, that's not a good game defensively.


That's a pretty silly way to judge the performance of a coordinator.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeneralTso wrote:
Gave up 27* points.

I don't care what offense you're playing, that's not a good game defensively.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted so much to post here when 'you-know-what' happened in this game.
Alas, I was not at a computer.

Terrible call(s) in an otherwise (in my opinion) well-played game.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeneralTso wrote:
Gave up 34 points.

I don't care what offense you're playing, that's not a good game defensively.


Considering 7 shouldnt have been scored at all, and the 3 from an overtime that shouldnt have happened, our defense is only at fault for 24 points. Against the Houston offense, thats damn good.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget the defense choked when they needed a stop the most in the 4th quarter.

How are people going to say 24 points is good? That's average, at best for any defense, against any offense.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeneralTso wrote:
Don't forget the defense choked when they needed a stop the most in the 4th quarter.

How are people going to say 24 points is good? That's average, at best for any defense, against any offense.


Our secondary is like a boat made of nothing but band aids, yet it held it's own against one of the best WRs and one of the best RBs in the game.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why in the world did the coaches take the ball out of Stafford's hands on that final drive? And why in the world did we kick it on 3rd down?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always kick it on 3rd down in OT if you have the chance.
That way if you muff the snap, etc. you get another try at it on 4th.
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Why in the world did the coaches take the ball out of Stafford's hands on that final drive? And why in the world did we kick it on 3rd down?


If the snap is botched on third down, the holder can fall on it and kick it again on fourth down. It's a pretty common tactic in sudden death situations.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why in the world did the coaches take the ball out of Stafford's hands on that final drive? And why in the world did we kick it on 3rd down?


If the snap is botched on third down, the holder can fall on it and kick it again on fourth down. It's a pretty common tactic in sudden death situations.


Okay. I still don't get why they ran it twice after the Scheffler 1st down. Stafford played well today and you take it out of his hands. Trust him. 47 yards isn't a chip shot...
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