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WindyCity


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the deal I offer Jake Long if he takes it great if not I move on.

5 years 45 million/22 guaranteed/12 signing bonus

Year 1: 4 million salary/2.4 million signing bonus [6.4]
Year 2: 3 million salary/2.4 million signing bonus/3 million roster bonus [8.4]
Year 3: 4 million salary/2.4 million signing bonus/3 million roster bonus [9.4]
Year 4: 4 million salary/2.4 million signing bonus/3 million roster bonus [9.4]
Year 5: 8 million salary/2.4 million signing bonus/1 million roster bonus [11.4]

*I use roster bonuses to make up a sizable portion of the guarantees as they protect us against his injuring himself. If he injures himself we can move on and recoup everything except for the signing bonus and money already paid.

If he stays healthy he cashes a 3 million dollar guaranteed check every March 3rd.

*We also can cut him in year 4 with only 2.4 in dead money or restructure the deal as their is a ton of no guaranteed space.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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According to Profootballtalk.com, there is "little or no chatter in league circles" about any team making a major push for free agent LT Jake Long.

"Some" NFL teams reportedly believe Long needs to play right tackle instead of left, which would severely diminish his market value. Long is also coming off back-to-back disappointing seasons. Our gut feeling all along has been that Long will wind up re-signing with the Dolphins on a deal worth significantly less than he's seeking. His current asking price is a laughable $11 million a year.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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According to Profootballtalk.com, there is "little or no chatter in league circles" about any team making a major push for free agent LT Jake Long.

"Some" NFL teams reportedly believe Long needs to play right tackle instead of left, which would severely diminish his market value. Long is also coming off back-to-back disappointing seasons. Our gut feeling all along has been that Long will wind up re-signing with the Dolphins on a deal worth significantly less than he's seeking. His current asking price is a laughable $11 million a year.


I really wonder if the entire OT market is going to be disappointed by the dollars that are out there.

I am hoping we still get Bushrod for 6 million or less.

Maybe Sup was right and Beatty is going to get more just so the Giants could keep him away from other teams and not take the risk.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WindyCity wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
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According to Profootballtalk.com, there is "little or no chatter in league circles" about any team making a major push for free agent LT Jake Long.

"Some" NFL teams reportedly believe Long needs to play right tackle instead of left, which would severely diminish his market value. Long is also coming off back-to-back disappointing seasons. Our gut feeling all along has been that Long will wind up re-signing with the Dolphins on a deal worth significantly less than he's seeking. His current asking price is a laughable $11 million a year.


I really wonder if the entire OT market is going to be disappointed by the dollars that are out there.

I am hoping we still get Bushrod for 6 million or less.

Maybe Sup was right and Beatty is going to get more just so the Giants could keep him away from other teams and not take the risk.

I'm still taking Albert @ 8m AND Long @ 9 m over Bushrod @ 6 m.


And New York clearly views Beatty as an elite LT, they didn't see a gap between he and Long/Albert. I can see them getting maybe 9 million a year and I would be shocked if Miami payed Long that.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pigsooie5 wrote:
WindyCity wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
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According to Profootballtalk.com, there is "little or no chatter in league circles" about any team making a major push for free agent LT Jake Long.

"Some" NFL teams reportedly believe Long needs to play right tackle instead of left, which would severely diminish his market value. Long is also coming off back-to-back disappointing seasons. Our gut feeling all along has been that Long will wind up re-signing with the Dolphins on a deal worth significantly less than he's seeking. His current asking price is a laughable $11 million a year.


I really wonder if the entire OT market is going to be disappointed by the dollars that are out there.

I am hoping we still get Bushrod for 6 million or less.

Maybe Sup was right and Beatty is going to get more just so the Giants could keep him away from other teams and not take the risk.

I'm still taking Albert @ 8m AND Long @ 9 m over Bushrod @ 6 m.


And New York clearly views Beatty as an elite LT, they didn't see a gap between he and Long/Albert. I can see them getting maybe 9 million a year and I would be shocked if Miami payed Long that.


That is assuming that we have 8 million to spend.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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According to SI's Peter King, several teams are "scared" of free agent RT Andre Smith.

Per King, teams "fear what a big signing bonus would do to (Smith's) desire." The No. 6 pick of the 2009 draft struggled with weight and injury issues his first two years in the league, and didn't put it all together until he was playing for a new contract. Smith was perhaps the league's most dominant right tackle in 2013, but his past will be a ghost in negotiations.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read that teams can begin negotiating with other teams' free agents on the 9th, but they don't become official/signed until the 12th. Did anyone else know this?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBears019 wrote:
I just read that teams can begin negotiating with other teams' free agents on the 9th, but they don't become official/signed until the 12th. Did anyone else know this?



Yes - that was the big change for this years FA. Now teams can legally 'tamper' with a FA before the signing period begins.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBears019 wrote:
I just read that teams can begin negotiating with other teams' free agents on the 9th, but they don't become official/signed until the 12th. Did anyone else know this?
Yeah they started this after the lockout last year. Christmas comes early
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Nashville Tennessean reports the Titans have reached an "impasse" with free agent Jared Cook over their franchise-tag dispute, and it's "safe to say" they will not reach a long-term deal on Monday.

That means Cook will hit the open market. The fact that the Titans aren't willing to tag Cook as a tight end suggests they believe Cook would have won the argument that he should be considered a receiver. That would have far-reaching implications for future free agent tight ends. Watching Cook walk would be bad news for a team that needs to surround Jake Locker with as much talent as possible, but a potential boon for Cook's fantasy value. He's been criminally underused throughout his four years in Tennessee.

Via Rotoworld

I'd love for Cook to be a Bear, provided his contract demands aren't outrageous
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When is the FT deadline today?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBears019 wrote:
When is the FT deadline today?

4 PM ET I believe
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The Nashville Tennessean reports the Titans have reached an "impasse" with free agent Jared Cook over their franchise-tag dispute, and it's "safe to say" they will not reach a long-term deal on Monday.

That means Cook will hit the open market. The fact that the Titans aren't willing to tag Cook as a tight end suggests they believe Cook would have won the argument that he should be considered a receiver. That would have far-reaching implications for future free agent tight ends. Watching Cook walk would be bad news for a team that needs to surround Jake Locker with as much talent as possible, but a potential boon for Cook's fantasy value. He's been criminally underused throughout his four years in Tennessee.

Via Rotoworld

I'd love for Cook to be a Bear, provided his contract demands aren't outrageous


Cook would be a great addition to the team.

Theo Epstien said you want to pay for what a player is going to do not for what they have done in the past.

Cook is on the border of really breaking out.
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ChiSportsFan wrote:
CBears019 wrote:
When is the FT deadline today?

4 PM ET I believe
Correct
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The nice part about TE is because of positional value the contract is going to be significantly smaller than OT.

The Bears could sign the best TE on the market [Cook] for 5-6 million instead of paying the best OT [Albert] 10 million. TE might be the best use of the Bears limited free agent resources.
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