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Desperado82
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 Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:10 pm Post subject: The Pat McQuistan Thread - A Dedication To Horrible O-Line |
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Okay, Plan...here's your thread.
Feel free to keep all negative comments about the offensive line and Jerruh in here so as not to divert other threads into the same ol' arguments.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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LMFAO - Sticky?
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DalCowboyzRule
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see how every single one of our draft picks next year shouldn't be spent on the offensive line, that's how bad they are.
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Ace5
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Horrible does not begin to describe this o-line. Seems like every year we're saying this right around now. Every offseason, its a new batch of crappy mid to late picks and even worse FA pickups. And yet, its treated like salvation. Well, every year, it turns out to be the same ol substandard play from the line. Romo's getting older and slowly losing some of his escape ability. This team needs three new OL or it'll need three OL and a QB very soon.
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plan9misfit
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the GOAT
He eats a bunch of babies - a lot more than most
Why the Hell won't He eat our "GM" Jerry Jones?
His jaws are chomping on!
Gory! Gory! Pat McQuistan!
Gory! Gory! Pat McQuistan!
Gory! Gory! Pat McQuistan!
His jaws are chomping on!
I have seen Him eat the babies of 100 Eagles fans
They built him an alter and pointed to the Giants’ camp
He ate all their babies and went to Redskins’ land
His jaws are chomping on!
Gory! Gory! Pat McQuistan!
Gory! Gory! Pat McQuistan!
Gory! Gory! Pat McQuistan!
His jaws are chomping on!
I have seen the GOAT play with a heart of molten steel;
“As ye deal with My dinners, I welcome my next meal”
Let the Hero, born of ogre eat what he will
This God is chomping on!
Gory! Gory! Pat McQuistan!
Gory! Gory! Pat McQuistan!
Gory! Gory! Pat McQuistan!
His jaws are chomping on!
His.....Jaws.....Are.....Chom-Ping.....Ooooooon!!!!!
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Texas_OutLaw7
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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We have now led the league in the amount of different Centers we have had starting.
Consistency and continuity be damned. 
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MaddHatter
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Texas_OutLaw7 wrote: | We have now led the league in the amount of different Centers we have had starting.
Consistency and continuity be damned. |
And that's without our #2 Center starting a single game - Kowalski has been out since pre-season
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The_Slamman
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Really, the C hasn't been a huge problem. We've had more problems at both guard positions and RT. I think I'd call Doug Free the worst starting tackle in the NFL right now.
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Texas_OutLaw7
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| The_Slamman wrote: | | Really, the C hasn't been a huge problem. We've had more problems at both guard positions and RT. I think I'd call Doug Free the worst starting tackle in the NFL right now. |
I disagree with the first part. We have gone through 3 different starting Centers and two others who were slated to play but had injury issues.
With the Center being influx that's impacted the whole OL. We had cadence issues and missed blocking assignments up the yin yang.
And I am not saying we can't have a viable option at Center for the future (pending development). What I am saying the rash of injuries and shuffling has caused a problem that has trickle down throughout. There has been no continuity with this line. And it shows.
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Texas_OutLaw7
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This actually leads to a question. Ignore for a second the fundamental truth of OL being a unit that be virtue needs to work together to be successful. Instead I am curious how would you rank our starting OL against one another. As in, who has been the worst starter? And who has been the best?
With keeping in mind that I have missed a few games this season here would be my rankings:
1. Costa
2. Livings (although is declining)
3. Smith (although was improving, I could realistically switch the two)
4. Cook
5. Free
6. Trogdor
I didn't include Dockery and Parnell since the sample size is low. I also viewed Trogdor purely as our starting RG, not as how he played at C last game.
EDIT: Yes, I know Costa's sample size is low. He just had a really impressive game. 
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Desperado82
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I have to wonder how much playing beside Bernadeuce and now Dockery is effecting Free's level of play.
I'd like to see Kowalski replace Dockery at RG for the game against Washington, but have a feeling we won't see that happen with the short week.
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Texas_OutLaw7
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Desperado82 wrote: | I have to wonder how much playing beside Bernadeuce and now Dockery is effecting Free's level of play.
I'd like to see Kowalski replace Dockery at RG for the game against Washington, but have a feeling we won't see that happen with the short week. |
I am sure it has had a sizable impact. But that does not mean when he stands alone he hasn't made some awful decisions. The regression is notable. I still believe he can be salvageable if the rest of the line gets an shot in the arm.
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Desperado82
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Texas_OutLaw7 wrote: | | Desperado82 wrote: | I have to wonder how much playing beside Bernadeuce and now Dockery is effecting Free's level of play.
I'd like to see Kowalski replace Dockery at RG for the game against Washington, but have a feeling we won't see that happen with the short week. |
I am sure it has had a sizable impact. But that does not mean when he stands alone he hasn't made some awful decisions. The regression is notable. I still believe he can be salvageable if the rest of the line gets an shot in the arm. |
I won't disagree, I think it would be fair to at least give him another shot once we (hopefully) improve the offensive line after the season. Lest we hope we aren't bitten in the [inappropriate/removed] by injuries again next year, however.
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Texas_OutLaw7
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I agree. I would give him another year. I know a popular thought is to move him to OG, but this is SUCH a deep OG class that I would prefer to find a future cornerstone in that position rather than continuing the shuffling.
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| Texas_OutLaw7 wrote: | | The_Slamman wrote: | | Really, the C hasn't been a huge problem. We've had more problems at both guard positions and RT. I think I'd call Doug Free the worst starting tackle in the NFL right now. |
I disagree with the first part. We have gone through 3 different starting Centers and two others who were slated to play but had injury issues.
With the Center being influx that's impacted the whole OL. We had cadence issues and missed blocking assignments up the yin yang.
And I am not saying we can't have a viable option at Center for the future (pending development). What I am saying the rash of injuries and shuffling has caused a problem that has trickle down throughout. There has been no continuity with this line. And it shows. |
There have been problems along every spot on the OL. C is certainly one of them. But, you are speculating on whether the C/G missed on combo blocks or cadence issues. Frankly, I don't recall there being a major problem with the C not snapping the ball at the appropriate time. I do recall last year that a ref called a false start on everybody but the center. That's an obvious C problem.
What I'm talking about is Livings and Burninduece being physically OVERWHELMED. I haven't seen that as much with the C position.
As for the missed assignments, I've seen the majority of the missed assignments on DL stunts where a DE crashes inside and a DT loops outside. It's happened frequently where nobody picks up the DT. That could be on either the T, G or RB (If I had to guess, I would guess that it's likely on the G who needs to kick out). I've seen some missed assignments on blitzing in the A gaps. That could be on the C, G or RB and it really depends on the calls that we have no way of knowing. Typically, the C responsibility is head up, inside shoulder, outside shoulder, gap... and almost universally his primary responsibility is the player with the shortest route to the QB.
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