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vikesnewcoach11


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frank Costello wrote:
If you're blaming Ponder for the loss, I suggest you schedule an eye exam first thing monday. Or see if the looney-bin has some openings.


Agreed Frank. For some reason everyone always blames Ponder. This team has other problems such as WR, OG, LB, and DT that some people seem to forget about
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing from this game is MATT KALIL is the REAL DEAL...Juluis Peppers was a non factor in this game...i dont recall hearing his name called once in this game
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AQuintus wrote:
Move on to who exactly? This year's QB class is awful.


I'm not sure who but I'd never call any class awful. Always a hidden gem to find, you just have to uncover it.

I just want it declared as the day I switched "sides" in the pro/anti Ponder debate.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recorded the game as I was out of town...only got to see the first half since Fox decided to switch the game on us (which was an appalling decision, but what can I do) and while Ponder certainly didn't help matters, he wasn't the reason they lost. The defense was the main reason. Their inability to stop the Bears on 3rd down was atrocious.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chuck44 wrote:
One thing from this game is MATT KALIL is the REAL DEAL...Juluis Peppers was a non factor in this game...i dont recall hearing his name called once in this game


Only bright spot. Peppers made Mt Thug his whipping boy all last season.

This game was lulzy.

Ponder is our best short at QB with no one else competent on the roster.

Well I'm ready for free agency.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

disaacs wrote:
I recorded the game as I was out of town...only got to see the first half since Fox decided to switch the game on us (which was an appalling decision, but what can I do) and while Ponder certainly didn't help matters, he wasn't the reason they lost. The defense was the main reason. Their inability to stop the Bears on 3rd down was atrocious.


3 and outs don't help either. Defense is just tired. They looked completely gassed in the 3ed quarter.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're missing Chris Cook and it shows. We'll probably find out Harrison Smith is concussed on Monday too, and wont be able to play against the Pack.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chuck44 wrote:
One thing from this game is MATT KALIL is the REAL DEAL...Juluis Peppers was a non factor in this game...i dont recall hearing his name called once in this game


He blocked the field goal.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikesnewcoach11 wrote:
Frank Costello wrote:
If you're blaming Ponder for the loss, I suggest you schedule an eye exam first thing monday. Or see if the looney-bin has some openings.


Agreed Frank. For some reason everyone always blames Ponder. This team has other problems such as WR, OG, LB, and DT that some people seem to forget about


I agree with you guys. This loss was not on Ponder. We have bigger fish to fry than trying to jump ship on the QB - especially when there aren't any prospects that are all that great in the upcoming draft anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uncle Buck wrote:


I agree with you guys. This loss was not on Ponder. We have bigger fish to fry than trying to jump ship on the QB - especially when there aren't any prospects that are all that great in the upcoming draft anyway.


We should have drafted a QB sooner. Jackson was a bust and a major reach.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no reason to draft a new QB this year. This class is fairly weak and questionable. Unless Geno falls down to us I would skip taking one, Let ponder take another crack at it. Next years class looks like it could be a lot better, and if Ponder cant get it done, we cut our losses and grab one in the 1st. At a good value of course.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anything, the defense showed a lot more holes today.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chi_Vike1 wrote:
There's no reason to draft a new QB this year. This class is fairly weak and questionable. Unless Geno falls down to us I would skip taking one, Let ponder take another crack at it. Next years class looks like it could be a lot better, and if Ponder cant get it done, we cut our losses and grab one in the 1st. At a good value of course.


after we waste another year of Peterson's prime?

Ponder is terrible, we all realistically know right now he will never be a good NFL starter so why continue?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KingTarvaris7 wrote:
we all realistically know right now he will never be a good NFL starter

No.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[UMN] wrote:
KingTarvaris7 wrote:
we all realistically know right now he will never be a good NFL starter

No.


I agree with [UMN] here, I'm going to quote John Kriesel via twitter about 20 minutes ago (John Kriesel was a member of the Minnesota Legislature and very supportive possibly key on getting the Vikings stadium passed, and he held up the "help" sign during the long days of discussion on the bill):

"I won't say that Ponder is the QB of the future, he hasn't earned it yet, but it's tough to evaluate him with such a lack of talent at WR. Because the Vikings have used so many aging, short-term fix's at QB, I think it would be irresponsible to pull the cord on Ponder this soon."

www.twitter.com/johnkriesel

I agree with him.
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