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PossibleCabbage


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swingdance wrote:
Well OK, but if he missed his last one as well, Lions only have to get down in FG range...


With ~20 seconds, and no time outs for Detroit, the only way they get into FG range is if there's a major mental error by the secondary, anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Crosby is so unreliable at long distance, but at least he made the one that counted.


What? They all counted. If he made one of the other two he missed, we take a 24-20 lead without the one he made.


Well OK, but if he missed his last one as well, Lions only have to get down in FG range...
I think you're reaching a bit there.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moses was a factor all game long. Perry never even came close to a game like this ... and both are rookies. "Silly" or not, I would have to look at moving Perry to DE and get both he and Moses on the field. When both healthy, Moses is the better player and you know Perry will get the nod due to draft status.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheGreatZepp wrote:
Swingdance wrote:
I Am Rodgers wrote:
Swingdance wrote:
Crosby is so unreliable at long distance, but at least he made the one that counted.


What? They all counted. If he made one of the other two he missed, we take a 24-20 lead without the one he made.


Well OK, but if he missed his last one as well, Lions only have to get down in FG range...
I think you're reaching a bit there.


Yeah. If he makes one of the earlier ones, the ones that "didn't count" then we have the same score before he makes that last one. If he makes the last one on top, Detroit can tie with a TD, not win.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Moses was a factor all game long. Perry never even came close to a game like this ... and both are rookies. "Silly" or not, I would have to look at moving Perry to DE and get both he and Moses on the field.


Give Perry some time to learn his craft.

With that being said, Moses looked damn good throughout. That pocket collapsed time and time again.

The defense stepped up all game. That redzone stop was the difference. Coverage was brilliant, safeties looked great, and the backers were solid throughout. I'm very pleased. A road win against a divisional opponent is critical. We're getting healthier, too, and no injuries in a hard fought win is pleasing to see. Very, very happy with this performance even though it was ugly throughout.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDN40 wrote:
Moses was a factor all game long. Perry never even came close to a game like this ... and both are rookies. "Silly" or not, I would have to look at moving Perry to DE and get both he and Moses on the field. When both healthy, Moses is the better player and you know Perry will get the nod due to draft status.


From the second the Packers picked Perry in last year's first round, it was a given that he was a project developmental pick to turn a hand in the ground defensive end into a stand up rush linebacker.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDN40 wrote:
Moses was a factor all game long. Perry never even came close to a game like this ... and both are rookies. "Silly" or not, I would have to look at moving Perry to DE and get both he and Moses on the field. When both healthy, Moses is the better player and you know Perry will get the nod due to draft status.


Perry is an edge guy. Even if he could put on enough mass for DE, he couldn't play 3-4 DE. He's a 4-3 DE/3-4 OLB only. His strength lies as an edge player not interior push.

As others have said, we knew he was going to take some time to grow into the roll from day 1. Long term, Perry is easily going to be the better guy. We've seen guys like Moses flash, in Zombo, Walden, and S'oto. Of them only Walden even matured into a "serviceable" OLB.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few notes that I wanted to touch on.

~ With how loose the refs were with the hands in the secondary, why weren't the Packers in man coverage more? We've seen time and time again the secondary is much more comfortable in man, yet Capers consistently throws us in zone coverage? I just don't understand the lack of adjustments on Capers part.

~ That was probably the hardest I've ever seen James Starks run. He was one cut, and hit through the hole and kept his legs churning after he was initially stopped.

~ As much as I want to get on Crosby, he just needs to get his head on straight. Get him a couple of chip shots against the Giants to get his confidence going.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No bad wins on the road within the division.

Surprised at how well the defense played. Hayward and House are developing into very solid players. Brad Jones has played better than I thought he would since he moved inside. Defensive front is getting good push but looked like they ran out gas against the run in key spots.

Think that the brain trust should consider looking for a street free agent lineman. Not sure if it would make the offensive better but it could not hurt. Starks ran very hard today and made sure that he got everything he could out his carries. Got Finley back into the offensive today which is good thing. Rodgers was not real sharp and he needs to play better next week but that was a heck of a throw to Cobb in the end zone.

Punt game was good, Cobb was awful with the returns, and Crosby should consider heading back to Boulder so he can get started on a graduate degree.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overall, this was a good win. Defense did all it could against a team that we know has the capability to put up points and rack up yards, but they made the big plays on D with the pressures, sacks, strip, pass deflections, and the pick-6. We knew Calvin was going to get his, but he alone wasn't going to beat the Packers. Still a little disheartened when the blitzes don't get home in time and Stafford finds someone open downfield, but they made up for it with a couple red zone stops.

Offensively, it could have been better. O-line had its struggles against one of the best D-lines in football (Nick Fairley in particular was beastly), Starks was OK, Finley came up big when he was asked, and what a throw from Rodgers to Cobb. I'm still wondering how he fit that in there. But I have no idea what they were thinking at the end of the first half. They had what, 30 seconds to run another play and they let it run all the way down to 3 to make a clearly-rattled Crosby kick a long field goal?

And speaking of Crosby, he's done.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CWood21 wrote:
A few notes that I wanted to touch on.

~ With how loose the refs were with the hands in the secondary, why weren't the Packers in man coverage more? We've seen time and time again the secondary is much more comfortable in man, yet Capers consistently throws us in zone coverage? I just don't understand the lack of adjustments on Capers part.

~ That was probably the hardest I've ever seen James Starks run. He was one cut, and hit through the hole and kept his legs churning after he was initially stopped.

~ As much as I want to get on Crosby, he just needs to get his head on straight. Get him a couple of chip shots against the Giants to get his confidence going.
no. Score TD's in the redzone... not attempt field goals. Let him go a couple weeks where he only needs to kick six XP's a game, let time heal the wounds until he forgets his struggles ever existed.

If he has three chip shots next week, chances are the game isn't going well at all.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seemed like we got lucky with that one..



.........because Stafford didn't play well? Because their offensive coordinator abandoned the run game on their final drive? We made less mistakes, didn't get away with calls, went into their house with a completely banged up team and beat them. Someone has to explain this because I see the other side is saying this as well.


Hah. Its quite simple actually. I'm saying we got lucky because we played a garbage game and came away with the W. There were a few glimpses of good in there, and the D came through most of the game...but it was a 4 point win, we trailed during a large portion of it, and we didn't play especially well. Either team could have won, therefore I'm saying we got pretty lucky to come away with a win on the road like that with the way we played through most of it. That is all.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IrishGreen wrote:
call me crazy, but i really think we could live without tramon williams


hayward, shields, and house are all playing well. williams might be playing the worst of the 4 imo.


Tramon had a couple plays today where he was just standing around. I hope someone gets in his face about it .. his effort was unacceptable.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont see how we didnt deserve that win, crosby makes those kicks and its probably a 9 point swing at least

erik walden didnt do anything all game, he got two garbage sacks so people will praise

zombo didnt do much of aything but hes just getting back

moses was playing out of his mind

daniels was beasting

heyward is a beast

finley had a nice game

starks played good

o- line was pretty cruddy to say the least

crosby - dont even get me started

masthey - is the man, should have him doing drop kicks instead
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the game thread someone asked if Masthay can kick field goals Smile

FYI as a UK fan, Masthay was our kick off specialist in addition to punting; but I don't remember him ever having place kicking duties.

(#6 kickoff man in the nation his senior year, but had some trouble with control - kicks going out of bounds and out-kicking the coverage)
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