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How many Monty Python refrences are there?
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Who is Monty Python?
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babyatemydingo


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Texas_OutLaw7 wrote:
Laughing Why would Dallas trade Hanna for Avant?


Good question.

Despite Witten being 30 he is clearly entrenched in the starting role for years to come as a highly productive TE.
Phillips is an adequate veteran reserve.

Also, when regimes change lower end players like 3rd TE's and nobody receivers tend to get swept out by the newcomers.
And those who depart often seek to pluck a few familiar faces to bring along.

Of Holmes, Harris and Beasly I'd expect only one would remain, probably Beasly.
Ogletree has been decent in the third slot, but Austin and Bryant have both had injury issues in recent seasons.
Any extended injury would push Ogletree into starting duty and Beasley into the 3rd.

Look, Avant isn't a world beater, but he is a steady, consistent, veteran receiver who can deepen a receiving corps.

And because this is pure speculation as the season isn't even over yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

magross wrote:
A new dc will most likely rid the wide 9 n not play nickel so much, which would leave the lb on more, which are 3rd lb is horrible, but my major concern is safety, we have none, n I'd rather have laron landry then nate allen or kurt coleman he can actually make plays and hit hard . But like I said previously I'd prefer byrd, he's a major playmaker, put him next to nnamdi in the secondary n I guarantee u nnamdis game steps up, bcuz in oakland nnamdi always hjad a safety for help


The wide 9 will be gone.
Every team plays a lot of nickel.

The Eagles need the following:
A QB, maybe.
An upgrade from DeSean Jackson or Maclin.
A second TE.
A certain starter at LT.
A starter at RG.
A pass rush.
A starting LB.
Depth at LB.
Better corner play.
Two starting safeties.

That is at least 9, maybe 10 contributors.
My contention is that it cannot all be done in one offseason.

I know, the Eagles should ask everyone to take a pay cut so that they can sign every free agent.
The problem is that 31 other teams will be competing for free agents as well.
A regime change may make Philly a less attractive place to go, especially for less money.
Maybe, just maybe you should take it easy on the sugar-coated cereal.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oland11 wrote:
magross wrote:
No real big fa signings besides bowe, need immediate impact players at safety, d-line, and last lb spot.

Draft is very mediocre too me, rate 2/10
Don't like the pics after the 1st round, feel like u wasted them on "reid" like picks


You don't need another dream team fiasco magross. Bowe would be a decent signing. You can address safety in the draft. We don't even need a 3rd LB that is dominant because we run out of the nickel D so much. Boykin has more snaps than Jordan most games.

And Dingo's draft is a lot better then a combination of all of your drafts put together. And championships are won in the trenches. Drafting Cooper and Joeckel in the first 2 rounds addresses the horrible play at OT and OG. Drafting White addresses the NT position with a big behemoth.


And how many Monty Python references were in this mock, Dingo?


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-And now for something completely different...
-"The picture"
-upperclass twit of the year
-dead parrot
-spam and eggs
-Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. Know what I mean? Know what I mean?
-crunchy frog
-lumberjack
-nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition
-Ron Obvious
-silly walks
-Bruce
-Anyone want an argument?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

babyatemydingo wrote:
Texas_OutLaw7 wrote:
Laughing Why would Dallas trade Hanna for Avant?


Good question.

Despite Witten being 30 he is clearly entrenched in the starting role for years to come as a highly productive TE.
Phillips is an adequate veteran reserve.

Also, when regimes change lower end players like 3rd TE's and nobody receivers tend to get swept out by the newcomers.
And those who depart often seek to pluck a few familiar faces to bring along.

Of Holmes, Harris and Beasly I'd expect only one would remain, probably Beasly.
Ogletree has been decent in the third slot, but Austin and Bryant have both had injury issues in recent seasons.
Any extended injury would push Ogletree into starting duty and Beasley into the 3rd.

Look, Avant isn't a world beater, but he is a steady, consistent, veteran receiver who can deepen a receiving corps.

And because this is pure speculation as the season isn't even over yet.


The thing is, I doubt we re-sign Phillips, which means that Hanna moves up to the #2 spot as a TE. I expect both Harris and Beasly to remain and I doubt Ogletree is re-signed. That being said, I don't see what Avant adds that would be a net gain for Dallas. We use two TE's a lot, so we would be left with only 1 if this trade were to go down. We trade a TE with receiving potential for a 30 year old WR?

I don't see it, but I appreciate the effort that went into making this.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent mock from one of my favorite posters on this site. Love the Mike Wallace move, would love him on the team and in a Garrett offense he'd be pretty serious. Just all in all really good mock. 9/10
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Texas_OutLaw7 wrote:
babyatemydingo wrote:
Texas_OutLaw7 wrote:
Laughing Why would Dallas trade Hanna for Avant?


Good question.

Despite Witten being 30 he is clearly entrenched in the starting role for years to come as a highly productive TE.
Phillips is an adequate veteran reserve.

Also, when regimes change lower end players like 3rd TE's and nobody receivers tend to get swept out by the newcomers.
And those who depart often seek to pluck a few familiar faces to bring along.

Of Holmes, Harris and Beasly I'd expect only one would remain, probably Beasly.
Ogletree has been decent in the third slot, but Austin and Bryant have both had injury issues in recent seasons.
Any extended injury would push Ogletree into starting duty and Beasley into the 3rd.

Look, Avant isn't a world beater, but he is a steady, consistent, veteran receiver who can deepen a receiving corps.

And because this is pure speculation as the season isn't even over yet.


The thing is, I doubt we re-sign Phillips, which means that Hanna moves up to the #2 spot as a TE. I expect both Harris and Beasly to remain and I doubt Ogletree is re-signed. That being said, I don't see what Avant adds that would be a net gain for Dallas. We use two TE's a lot, so we would be left with only 1 if this trade were to go down. We trade a TE with receiving potential for a 30 year old WR?

I don't see it, but I appreciate the effort that went into making this.


Hanna has one catch for 10 yards and has played mostly on special teams.
He doesn't play a significant role in the two TE sets.
And with a new coach his role could be diminished.

The more I look at him the more I see a Garrett favorite.
His lasting until the 6th round leads me to believe he's not a favorite of every coach.

My offseason was predicated on Garrett being relieved of his duties.
I suspect he'd try to bring Hanna with him.

As for Avant...

He is the middle of the road, veteran receiver who rounds out any receiving corps.
He is a Jerricho Cotchery, Jabbar Gaffney, Brandon Stokely type guy.
The guys you have on the roster are no guarantee to be competent.
Avant is.
He is just that insurance policy against better judgement and the cost is some other coach's risky TE pick.

Really, the whole debate is incidental.
Hanna's can be found in many drafts.
I chose him for an expression of the new philosophy.
This move doesn't make or break the content.
He is as replaceable with Philly as he is with Dallas.
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