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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:40 pm    Post subject: Monty Python Mock Reply with quote

And now for something completely different...





Really, I am tired of all of the mocks looking virtually the same.
A lot of thought went into this, but I'm not married to any of it.
I am throwing some stuff up against the wall.

It all starts with the dismissal of Andy Reid.
No sooner do the Eagles lose their 8th game of 2012 then Andy Reid gets called into the office on Friday morning.
Lurie is not the upperclass twit of the year after all.
Todd Bowles is named interim coach and gets a brief audition for the head coaching job.


The first move is at the very top.
Eric Mangini is brought in as GM/VP of Operations.
This is a defensive minded guy the Eagles wanted to bring in as a consultant in 2011 when it was apparent somejuan didn't know what they were doing.
He turned that job down, but not this one.
He is really brought in for his personnel acumen on both sides of the ball.

Here are the five drafts which took place under Mangini BTW:
D'Brickashaw Ferguson*** - Nick Mangold*** - Kellen Clemens* - Anthony Schlegel - Eric Smith* - Brad Smith* - Leon Washington** - Jason Pociask - Drew Coleman - Titus Adams
Darrelle Revis*** - David Harris** - Jacob Bender - Chansi Stuckey* - Mike DeVito**(UDFA)
Vernon Gholston - Dustin Keller** - Dwight Lowery* - Erik Ainge - Nate Garner* - Danny Woodhead**
Alex Mack** - Brian Robiskie - Mohamed Massaquoi* - Kaluka Maiava** - Don Carey* - Coye Francies*
Joe Haden*** - T. J. Ward** - Montario Hardesty* - Colt McCoy** - Larry Asante - Carlton Mitchell


After careful consideration between Lurie and Mangini about what the Eagles need in a next head coach, it is decided to go the "Tomlin" route.
A young coach is sought rather than a veteran retread.
Mangini wants the ability to have some providence over his coach and Lurie wants to have the security of a long term solution as he had in Reid.
The exhaustive search results in Kirby Smart, the soon to be ex-defensive coordinator at Alabama.
Smart is not only smart, he's a real son-of-a-coach, too. At 36, he's been coaching since 2000.
Certainly, his defenses speak for themselves.
Now, one could contend that he's had superior talent, but so do the Eagles.
It makes sense to bring in a coach who can use what he has in an efficient manner.


To run the offense Smart brings in another Saban disciple (albeit at Miami).
Recently terminated Jason Garrett is named offensive coordinator.
The West Coast Era is over.
The Eagles run a more vertical, Coryell-esque system.
This will certainly mean some player movement, particularly at WR.


The search for a defensive coordinator is short.
It is decided that Todd Bowles will be retained for a number of reasons.
First, the Eagles would like to maintain some continuity. Bowles has been here and has established rapport with the players who will remain.
Plus, Bowles will really only be coordinator in title only. Smart will orchestrate most of the schemes and strategy. Bowles will facilitate.
Furthermore, Bowles has more experience in a 4-3 scheme even though Smart has coached in it before.
The Eagles will ultimately transition to a 3-4, but don't have the personnel to do so immediately.
This move has as much to do with Mangini wanting Smart flanked by veteran NFL coaches as he transitions.
Now, people have been quick to disparage Bowles after two games.
Keep in mind, though, he faced the Saints and the Cowboys, two pretty good offenses.
He was also saddled with the god-awful wide-9, not of his choosing. He will "un-choose" it next year.



On to the players, by position.


QB) Michael Vick is gone, cut. He's a dead parrot walking now.
Nick Foles gets the nod. This is a no-brainer as the Eagles really don't have any other options.
Trent Edwards is retained as well. Really, there isn't a great deal of difference between Edwards and the other candidates available.
Mangini likes to take QB's in the middle rounds and it can be expected he will continue in that manner.


RB) McCoy starts at RB, Havili at FB.
I was pleasantly surprised to see Havili's progress this season. He's not a crushing blocker, but does provide enough obstruction.
In fact, the only time the Eagles were efficient against the Saints was when he was in the game. Somehow, Reid missed that.
Bryce Brown and Chris Polk remain with the team.
Dion Lewis is released.


WR) This is where it gets interesting.
There is no doubt that DeSean Jackson has extraordinary talent. He can also be a colossal pain.
This seems endemic at the wide receiver position.
Pittsburgh has had issues with Mike Wallace. First, with his holdout and then with his dislike of the new "dink and dunk" offensive system.
Wallace is a free agent at the end of this season.
In a tag-and-trade move the Eagles and Steelers swap prima donnas.
Jackson is already signed and has received $10M of the $15M in guaranteed money. Pittsburgh could sever ties at any time with minimal damage.
He also has little problem running underneath routes and bubble screen type plays.
Wallace would be afforded the opportunity to run more deep routes in a Garrett system and would stretch the field for the Eagles.
He would be paid about $10M for his first season in Philadelphia. The onus would be on the Eagles to sign him long term or lose him as Pitt would.
While the advantage would seem to go to the Eagles here from a talent perspective the Steelers gain the edge in youth, contract and flexibility.
They also don't walk away empty handed or with a disgruntled, tagged receiver.
And, with the only major free agent signing of the offseason, the Eagles sign Dwayne Bowe.
The trick will be keeping him and Wallace happy salary-wise.
(Somehow, I think one of them is going to ask for $1 more than what the other one got. Or at least some spam and eggs.)
This moves Maclin to the slot and makes Avant expendable. Avant is sent packing to Dallas in exchange for James Hanna.
Dallas has had issues replacing Laurent Robinson's production with a bunch of scrubs. Adding Avant tempers the loss.
Cooper and D. Johnson remain with the team.


TE) Celek and Harbor stay.
Another tight end is added to the roster when they acquire Hanna from Dallas.
The Eagles carry three.


OT) In a perfect world Jason Peters returns to be Jason Peters. In all likelihood he does not.
Herremans and Dunlap stay with the team as the only viable options with Kelly in reserve.
Herremans may actually go out to LT in a worst case scenario.
Much depends on Peters being able to make any contribution whatsoever.
A tackle is added in the draft and takes Bell's roster spot.


OG) A new coach means ties with Watkins can be cut. There is no ego issue here.
Chad Rinehart is added for depth with the condition he stays away from Mojo's Pizza House.
(Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. Know what I mean? Know what I mean?)
Mathis is still a starter and the Eagles add one in the draft.


OC) Kelce is given the opportunity to keep his job if healthy.
If not, it will be a free for all at the position with draftees and UDFA's competing.

I know, the prospects are not rosy on the OL.
The issue is that the best lines play together as a unit.
The Eagles could have three 1st round pick and not get it right. You can't draft chemistry.
Part of any success will be playing guys familiar with each other and injured starters returning to contribute.
The one saving grace is that in Dunlap, Kelly and Herremans the Eagles have three guys who can play both inside and out giving them flexibility.
Still, this unit will be suspect at the start of the season and about as popular as crunchy frog.


DE) This was supposed to be a strength.
If there was ever a testament to the importance of coaching and scheme, this is it.
Babin will surely go. So will Tapp. And there is no way either will be traded.
Seriously, Babin's contract is trade-prohibitive. He'll sign elsewhere for a lot less or retire and become a lumberjack.
Curry, Cole, Graham and Hunt will stay.
Cole will be expected to return to his old form or this will be his last season as an Eagle. It may be anyway.
He could possibly be traded on draft day.
The Eagles sign Robert Geathers to rotate in at LDE. Cincinnati is ready to hand that responsibility over to Carlos Dunlap.


DT) Only Mike Patterson gets the boot.
Cox and Jenkins start. Thornton and Landri are reserves.
The big change is the emergence of the oversize NT-type DT in the draft.
It is the beginning of the change.


LB) Two-thirds of the starters are in place with Ryans and Kendricks.
Kendricks should expect to be here long term. Ryans should not.
Chaney and Jordan will add some depth for now as you just can't cut everyone.
You can, however, cut Casey Matthews. New coach, remember?
A rookie makes the squad.


CB) While a number of people feel the Asomugha signing did not pan out, he stays.
For the Eagles to expect him to come in and be Charles Woodson was foolish.
He is what he is, which is a damn good CB.
Rodgers-Cromartie is signed and starts opposite Asomugha.
Boykin is the nickel.
Marsh and Hughes compete for one reserve spot.
The other will go to a promising UDFA.


S) This mess stays a bit messy.
Nate Allen is the free safety.
Kurt Coleman is a good reserve safety. The problem is that he starts.
Sims may or may not be able to play. He looked good enough in preseason, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as a reserve only.
Colt Anderson is a special teams demon who is hidden here as a safety even tough he won't see many snaps there.
With one spot available and in serious need of an upgrade the Eagles make a not-so-surprising, surprise move.
Sheldon Brown is signed back into the fold and moved to safety. Nobody sees this coming.
But, nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition, either.
There have long been rumors Brown would move there and with him losing playing time at corner in Cleveland, now is the time.
Cleveland has to move on at this point and finish developing guys like Haden, Skrine, Bademosi and Wade.
While Brown has the skills, he is not the ideal size. But, he is only an adequate stop-gap at this point, anyway.


K) Alex Henery


P) I simply don't care. McBriar, Henry, Oland, Ron Obvious. Pick one.


LS) Dorenbos



Draft

1) OT - Luke Joeckel
Yeah, the Eagles are going to be bad enough the rest of the way to get him.
If everyone comes back healthy there will be a minor logjam at tackle which is a nice "problem" to have, especially after this season.
I don't think I really need to explain this pick any further.

2) OL - Jonathan Cooper
With Garrett's modified zone blocking scheme they'll need a guy like Cooper.
He is not a mauler. He is very athletic, though.
They expect him to start by mid-season.

3) DT - Anthony Rashad White
White is the first step towards a 3-4.
He sees limited rotational duty and is called by some a bust by season's end.
He is the future, however.

4) LB - Jamie Collins
A college DE in the Gocong mold, Collins will make the squad, but will see little action except on special teams.
His value will be realized in 2014 when he rotates with Graham and Hunt.
He will be the Eagles' steal of the draft, but nobody will know for a year.

5) S - Drew Frey
Great physical attributes make him look like an attractive prospect.
But, marginal instincts and false steps cause him to fall precipitously.
He is a long shot to ever play.
There are just some chances you take, though.

6) QB - Brad Sorensen
A long term roll of the dice at QB, Sorensen is brought in to carry the clipboard and do some silly walks on the sideline.
Every once in a while a guy like this pans out.
Don't hold your breath, though.....unless he sees the field.
Then be scared.

7) Traded for Sims
There are no Bruce's in this draft.


UDFA

DB - Melvin White
OL - PJ Lonergan
LB - Jonathan "Tig" Willard
CB - TJ Bryant



Depth Chart

QB - Foles, Edwards, Sorensen
RB - McCoy, Brown, Polk, Havili
WR - Wallace (T), Bowe (F), Maclin, R. Cooper, Johnson
TE - Celek, Harbor, Hanna (T)
T - Herremans, Dunlap, Kelly, Joeckel, Peters?
G - Mathis, Reinhardt (F), J. Cooper
C - Kelce, Lonergan
DE - Cole, Geathers (F), Curry, Graham, Hunt
DT - Cox, Jenkins, Landri, Thornton, A. White
LB - Kendricks, Ryans, Chaney, Jordan, Collins
CB - Asomugha, Rodgers-Cromartie, Boykin, Graham, Bryant
S - Allen, Brown, Coleman, Sims, Anderson
K - Henery
P - McBriar
LS - Dorenbos



PS

Drew Frey
Melvin White
Jonathan Willard
Frank Trotter
Phillip Thomas
Ryan Rau



Recap:


Trades:

DeSean Jackson for Mike Wallace
Jason Avant for James Hanna
There are no crazy three scrubs for a player trades here.


Free Agents:

Dwayne Bowe
Clarence Geathers
Chad Reinhardt
Sheldon Brown



Before season's end:

The Eagles will explore the market for Trent Cole and DeMeco Ryans.
If they are not traded in-season the Eagles will look to move them afterwards.
If they cannot, both will be cut.
Jordan, Geathers and Landri will also be moving on.
2014 will be the first season in the 3-4.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I counted 9. And who voted "Who is Monty Python"?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this except for the Casey Matthews release also.

9.9/10.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole WR wheeling and dealing is terrible and would never happen.

Mangini either as DC or some part of Front office I like.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RainbowCarebear wrote:
The whole WR wheeling and dealing is terrible and would never happen.

Mangini either as DC or some part of Front office I like.


It may never happen, but why is it terrible?
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The Wallace Desean thing makes no sense
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm liking this idea more and more now.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky_b27 wrote:
I'm liking this idea more and more now.


Anything is better than what the Eagles have.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oland11 wrote:
I like this except for the Casey Matthews release also.

9.9/10.


Please say that was sarcasm.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RainbowCarebear wrote:
The Wallace Desean thing makes no sense


Why?

Wallace is better suited to a Garrett offense.
Pittsburgh is going to have issues keeping him in the fold, too.

Jackson catches short passes and turns them into big gains.
He'd be teaming up with Sanders and Brown and would still be another deep threat.

Plus, I want Jackson out of town.
For all of the complaining and whining about Maclin and Avant, Jackson has been getting a pass.
He is a niche luxury.
The Eagles can't afford to carry guys like him.
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I do like that it is different. It's fun when people think of their own ideas.

It's pretty much the same team, which is painful, but realistic. It's a 1 step back 2 steps forward kind of mock.

Oh and Jackson would get killed in the AFC North LOL.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eaglesfan10 wrote:
I do like that it is different. It's fun when people think of their own ideas.

It's pretty much the same team, which is painful, but realistic. It's a 1 step back 2 steps forward kind of mock.

Oh and Jackson would get killed in the AFC North LOL.


No, he would just fall down a lot.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOVED IT.

Kirby Smart is the man. He is going to be an amazing head coach one day. It would be a shame for Alabama to lose him but they are going to one day and I would lose him from Alabama to the Eagles which would be perfectly fine with me.

Love the moves.

This team wouldn't be competitive the first season but I suspect it would in the future.

I have one question. Would the QB position be addressed in year 2? Maybe year 3?
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RollEagles wrote:
LOVED IT.

Kirby Smart is the man. He is going to be an amazing head coach one day. It would be a shame for Alabama to lose him but they are going to one day and I would lose him from Alabama to the Eagles which would be perfectly fine with me.

Love the moves.

This team wouldn't be competitive the first season but I suspect it would in the future.

I have one question. Would the QB position be addressed in year 2? Maybe year 3?


What's the rush?
Have you given up on Foles after a game and a half?

It will be addressed when it needs to be addressed.
Hell, maybe they sign Romo in 2014.

You just have to get on the right track and let things play out.
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Like the coaching staff, except garrett rate 7.6/10

Hate the free agency/cuts/trades rate 3/10
Love the bowe signing, hate the jackson trade, bringin in bowe would give a true #1 wr and jackson would be able to work deep, move maclin into slot if he's willing to resign for moderate money if not trade him.
No real big fa signings besides bowe, need immediate impact players at safety, d-line, and last lb spot.
Think nnamdi gets cut unless he takes a major paycut, preferably cut and go get a guy like sean smith.
My fa wish list:
WR bowe
S byrd
CB sean smith

Draft is very mediocre too me, rate 2/10
Don't like the pics after the 1st round, feel like u wasted them on "reid" like picks
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