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Who wins?
Saints
52%
 52%  [ 10 ]
Raiders til Death
47%
 47%  [ 9 ]
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RaisinBran


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are gonna get torched.

My prediction:

Saints 49

Raiders 31
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TiberiusRising


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually like the fact that Mitchell will get a chance to cover Graham. Honestly its the run that kills us.

Also are DB's should have some time to get to the ball, hopefully our DL has been working on tipping passes. We have one of the tallest DL in the league going against a QB who already has to peak over NFL teams to get a throw off.

We still need to stop the run first. They are going to try and pound it and take the crowd out of it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
RaiderX wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Saints are just going to carve up the defense. Should be another stinker and it will be all Palmer's fault as per usual.

Post game thread:

Palmer sucks
Knapp sucks
Wheeler sucks
Gio Sucks
STs suck
Defense sucks

Que 2013 draft thread bump. Rinse and repeat.

Faceplant FTW.


Don't shoot the messenger. Some are excited about him so others have really lay it on thick about him sucking to hurt feelings. Laughing


S'alright. Even though you did say we could build around him on defense. Watch Graham juke him and Wheels go face-first into the turf. After last game there's only a couple who'd want him resigned. I don't mind as long as its a backup role. I was excited when we first signed him. Then I started seeing his coverage skills vs the Lions in prereason and got a bit worried. Its slowly cone to surface each game. He wiffs worse than anybody on the D.
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Yea, RaiderX wins. We can all just top acting like this is a matter of opinion. MY GOD.
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NCOUGHMAN


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raidin wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Saints are just going to carve up the defense. Should be another stinker and it will be all Palmer's fault as per usual.

Post game thread:

Palmer sucks
Knapp sucks
Wheeler sucks
Gio Sucks
STs suck
Defense sucks

Que 2013 draft thread bump. Rinse and repeat.



He's out afaik so it's Mitchell's turn to suck now.


edit. Gio is good to go, looks like Branch might struggle though.


dam im really getting tired of gio
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This is football, not pussology 101
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OakRaiders3828


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Raidin wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Saints are just going to carve up the defense. Should be another stinker and it will be all Palmer's fault as per usual.

Post game thread:

Palmer sucks
Knapp sucks
Wheeler sucks
Gio Sucks
STs suck
Defense sucks

Que 2013 draft thread bump. Rinse and repeat.



He's out afaik so it's Mitchell's turn to suck now.


edit. Gio is good to go, looks like Branch might struggle though.


dam im really getting tired of gio


With Huff at corner, and Branch out, there's literally no other option
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a time over the last few weeks that I really thought the Raiders would be competitive in this game . . . .
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Nodisrespect on building inside out wrote:
teams without highly draft DT's make the playoffs and win the superbowl regularly.

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Teams that win Superbowls and make the playoffs aren't picking in the Top 5, clearly
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RaiderX wrote:
He wiffs worse than anybody on the D.


And he still leads the team in tackles? I guess we'd be a better D if those guys who don't whiff were in position to make a tackle in the first place then.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oakdb36 wrote:
RaiderX wrote:
He wiffs worse than anybody on the D.


And he still leads the team in tackles? I guess we'd be a better D if those guys who don't whiff were in position to make a tackle in the first place then.


True. I should have said wiffs harder than anyone else on the D. I want most of this D wiped out so I'm not favoring or hating certain players. I mean the D is on the field plenty so they're gonna get opportunities to tackle. Tackles is a meaningless stat on this team when you think about it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saints are playing better football these last few weeks and are 4-5 looking at the opening of the tunnel. I see them turning it on this week and making a playoff push. Hard to see us pushing out a win unless we've fixed some big problem areas this week.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rumor is the wiseguys are pounding money on the Raiders and moving the line down. Interesting . . . .
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teams without highly draft DT's make the playoffs and win the superbowl regularly.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baggabonez wrote:
The rumor is the wiseguys are pounding money on the Raiders and moving the line down. Interesting . . . .


Pretty sure it's because a ton of bets have already been made on the Saints and they're trying to even it out. That's pretty common strategy.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickButera wrote:
Baggabonez wrote:
The rumor is the wiseguys are pounding money on the Raiders and moving the line down. Interesting . . . .


Pretty sure it's because a ton of bets have already been made on the Saints and they're trying to even it out. That's pretty common strategy.


No . . they've moved the line in the opposite direction from what I've heard from +6 to +4. It's takes a ton of money to move a line by 2pts btw.(disclaimer: I haven't haven't looked at the line so I have no idea if this is true, just what I heard and can easily confirmed by you).
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baggabonez wrote:
NickButera wrote:
Baggabonez wrote:
The rumor is the wiseguys are pounding money on the Raiders and moving the line down. Interesting . . . .


Pretty sure it's because a ton of bets have already been made on the Saints and they're trying to even it out. That's pretty common strategy.


No . . they've moved the line in the opposite direction from what I've heard from +6 to +4. It's takes a ton of money to move a line by 2pts btw.


Yea, that's the right direction. Saints were favored by 6, now it's by 4. They move the lines closer together if they get a large amount of bets on a favorite.

C'mon man! You're a fellow Nevadan! You should know this! Oh the Shame.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickButera wrote:
Baggabonez wrote:
NickButera wrote:
Baggabonez wrote:
The rumor is the wiseguys are pounding money on the Raiders and moving the line down. Interesting . . . .


Pretty sure it's because a ton of bets have already been made on the Saints and they're trying to even it out. That's pretty common strategy.


No . . they've moved the line in the opposite direction from what I've heard from +6 to +4. It's takes a ton of money to move a line by 2pts btw.


Yea, that's the right direction. Saints were favored by 6, now it's by 4. They move the lines closer together if they get a large amount of bets on a favorite.

C'mon man! You're a fellow Nevadan! You should know this! Oh the Shame.


You are incorrect NB. If the general public is betting the favorite the spread grows to encourage people to bet the other side hence this line SHOULD read +9. I used to bet a lot I'm just not into it this year. I'm not trying build false hopes but obviously someone likes the home dog, which in most cases would be a good bet.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its going to rain really hard on sunday so maybe Brees wont kill us....

regardless, we're probably screwed. I want to have a happy turkey day so go Raiders
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