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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the deal with Hostess? Bankruptcy, or just closing down?

Why wouldn't they sell the recipe...?

iPwn wrote:
Vikefan79 wrote:
Some dude has a box of Twinkies on EBay selling for $5000!
Someone is trying to sell them on Craigslist for $150,000. Laughing Laughing


In an hour it will come down, saying "sorry, got hungry"
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NextBigThing wrote:
Whats the deal with Hostess? Bankruptcy, or just closing down?

Why wouldn't they sell the recipe...?
Bankruptcy. They'll have to sell off their assets, including all their recipes. I'd expect some competitors to buy the recipes just to sit on them so someone else can't use it.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This would be awesome if it were all a big lie. Honestly, I kind of want a chocodile now.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing of value was lost.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iPwn wrote:
I'd expect some competitors to buy the recipes just to sit on them so someone else can't use it.


This.

People expecting the recipes to get sold off to companies who will start making Twinkies and such using the Hostess recipe will most likely be disappointed.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VikeADunn wrote:
theJ wrote:
Totty wrote:
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Nice to see unions contributing to the greater good for once.....



oh wait


Slow your role VAD. The bakers in that union were fighting to keep their pensions and health care.

Well, the other side of the coin is that now they won't have pensions, health care or a salary.


Increasing pension and medical costs was the reason Hostess filed for bankruptcy and considered liquidation in the first place. Hostess didn't have the money to keep paying those benefits at their current level (at least this is what they claim).


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"As the company was preparing to file for bankruptcy earlier this year, the then CEO of Hostess was awarded a 300 percent raise (from approximately $750,000 to $2,550,000) and at least nine other top executives of the company received massive pay raises. One such executive received a pay increase from $500,000 to $900,000 and another received one taking his salary from $375,000 to $656,256."


They had the money for the pensions and health insurance. They just chose to give huge raises to the top earners at the companies to try to break their union and/or get out from the obligation of having to pay the agreed-to level of compensation to their (factory) workers.

http://politix.topix.com/homepage/3442-unions-hostess-ceo-received-300-raise-before-bankruptcy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything in excess is bad. That includes unions, which were designed to fight against employees having power in....excess.

I dont know the details about this one. But I do know unions are usually not totally innocent in this kind of stuff.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcmurtry86 wrote:
They had the money for the pensions and health insurance.


Hostess has NO money. They are negative about $1 billion.

I'm not getting into the argument about who's at fault (there's plenty to go around IMO).
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're all at fault, for only buying two boxes of Twinkees when we should have bought four.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NextBigThing wrote:
We're all at fault, for only buying two boxes of Twinkees when we should have bought four.


Four?

More like 10.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why pensions should be abolished. As should most unions...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NextBigThing wrote:
Whats the deal with Hostess? Bankruptcy, or just closing down?

Why wouldn't they sell the recipe...?

iPwn wrote:
Vikefan79 wrote:
Some dude has a box of Twinkies on EBay selling for $5000!
Someone is trying to sell them on Craigslist for $150,000. Laughing Laughing


In an hour it will come down, saying "sorry, got hungry"


http://www.ebay.com/itm/One-OPENED-single-TWINKIE-with-bite-taken-/251186072998?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7bdb4da6 Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here ya go you Twinkie lovers Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheVillain112 wrote:
This is why pensions should be abolished. As should most unions...


No no no, none of that. They serve a purpose, but when they have too much power, they - like everything pretty much - do more harm than good. That seems to have been the case here.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as Reese's is still doing well....
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