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Tzimisce 
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | And Ihedigbo might have just ended the Pats best hope of getting a bye. | Baltimore still has games against the Broncos and Giants, but the Pats would have to run the table to take any sort of advantage. |
That Broncos/Ravens game will likely determine the #2 seed | Maybe. If the Broncos win, though, they still have the head-to-head loss with the Pats. _________________
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mcmurtry86
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | And Ihedigbo might have just ended the Pats best hope of getting a bye. | Baltimore still has games against the Broncos and Giants, but the Pats would have to run the table to take any sort of advantage. |
That Broncos/Ravens game will likely determine the #2 seed | Maybe. If the Broncos win, though, they still have the head-to-head loss with the Pats. |
If the Broncos win against Baltimore, I expect them to finish with a better record than the Pats. That's the problem. Their schedule is pathetic:
@Kansas City
vs. Tampa Bay
@ Oakland
@ Baltimore
vs. Cleveland
vs. Kansas City
I don't see them losing any of the non-Baltimore games. |
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Tzimisce 
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | And Ihedigbo might have just ended the Pats best hope of getting a bye. | Baltimore still has games against the Broncos and Giants, but the Pats would have to run the table to take any sort of advantage. |
That Broncos/Ravens game will likely determine the #2 seed | Maybe. If the Broncos win, though, they still have the head-to-head loss with the Pats. |
If the Broncos win against Baltimore, I expect them to finish with a better record than the Pats. That's the problem. Their schedule is pathetic:
@Kansas City
vs. Tampa Bay
@ Oakland
@ Baltimore
vs. Cleveland
vs. Kansas City
I don't see them losing any of the non-Baltimore games. | Tampa could be problematic for them. _________________
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mcmurtry86
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | And Ihedigbo might have just ended the Pats best hope of getting a bye. | Baltimore still has games against the Broncos and Giants, but the Pats would have to run the table to take any sort of advantage. |
That Broncos/Ravens game will likely determine the #2 seed | Maybe. If the Broncos win, though, they still have the head-to-head loss with the Pats. |
If the Broncos win against Baltimore, I expect them to finish with a better record than the Pats. That's the problem. Their schedule is pathetic:
@Kansas City
vs. Tampa Bay
@ Oakland
@ Baltimore
vs. Cleveland
vs. Kansas City
I don't see them losing any of the non-Baltimore games. | Tampa could be problematic for them. |
Given their schedule, it's far more likely that the Pats lose more games than the Broncos - especially if Denver beats the Ravens. |
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Tzimisce 
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | And Ihedigbo might have just ended the Pats best hope of getting a bye. | Baltimore still has games against the Broncos and Giants, but the Pats would have to run the table to take any sort of advantage. |
That Broncos/Ravens game will likely determine the #2 seed | Maybe. If the Broncos win, though, they still have the head-to-head loss with the Pats. |
If the Broncos win against Baltimore, I expect them to finish with a better record than the Pats. That's the problem. Their schedule is pathetic:
@Kansas City
vs. Tampa Bay
@ Oakland
@ Baltimore
vs. Cleveland
vs. Kansas City
I don't see them losing any of the non-Baltimore games. | Tampa could be problematic for them. |
Given their schedule, it's far more likely that the Pats lose more games than the Broncos - especially if Denver beats the Ravens. | Honestly the only game I see the Pats losing is to the 49ers. I don't think they lose to both San Fran and Houston. _________________
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Sciz 
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:34 am Post subject: |
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The Ravens have adopted the "don't cover guys, just lay them out" strategy, and it's working. _________________ Shut up, NBT |
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Tzimisce 
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| Sciz wrote: | | The Ravens have adopted the "don't cover guys, just lay them out" strategy, and it's working. | Yeah... see how long they stick with it once the laundry starts flying. _________________
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Sciz 
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:36 am Post subject: |
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"What's this oblong brown thing? I don't want it! You take it!" _________________ Shut up, NBT |
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mcmurtry86
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:37 am Post subject: |
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| Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | And Ihedigbo might have just ended the Pats best hope of getting a bye. | Baltimore still has games against the Broncos and Giants, but the Pats would have to run the table to take any sort of advantage. |
That Broncos/Ravens game will likely determine the #2 seed | Maybe. If the Broncos win, though, they still have the head-to-head loss with the Pats. |
If the Broncos win against Baltimore, I expect them to finish with a better record than the Pats. That's the problem. Their schedule is pathetic:
@Kansas City
vs. Tampa Bay
@ Oakland
@ Baltimore
vs. Cleveland
vs. Kansas City
I don't see them losing any of the non-Baltimore games. | Tampa could be problematic for them. |
Given their schedule, it's far more likely that the Pats lose more games than the Broncos - especially if Denver beats the Ravens. | Honestly the only game I see the Pats losing is to the 49ers. I don't think they lose to both San Fran and Houston. |
I think they probably drop both if they're without Gronk for both. Even if they split those 2, I'm not going to assume they beat Miami twice and the Jets on the road. Getting 4 wins out of those 5 games just seems unlikely to me given their health and awful D. |
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Sciz 
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:53 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, didn't realize Baltimore and Denver played. If Denver beats Baltimore and both of them plus the Pats finish with the same record, who is likely to have the tiebreakers? _________________ Shut up, NBT |
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Pats#1 
Joined: 19 Aug 2011 Posts: 1877 Location: Plymouth, MA
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:12 am Post subject: |
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| Sciz wrote: | | Hmm, didn't realize Baltimore and Denver played. If Denver beats Baltimore and both of them plus the Pats finish with the same record, who is likely to have the tiebreakers? |
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| Richter wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | ...too bad she's dead... |
Oh right, like we're now supposed to believe that's your barrier for entry... |
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mcmurtry86
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Sciz wrote: | | Hmm, didn't realize Baltimore and Denver played. If Denver beats Baltimore and both of them plus the Pats finish with the same record, who is likely to have the tiebreakers? |
The Patriots would have the tiebreaker, assuming the Pats and Broncos run the table and Baltimore's only loss is vs. Denver. In a 3 way tie, the tiebreakers are:
1. Games against each other. All 3 teams would be 1-1 (Pats beat Denver, Ravens beat Pats, Denver beat Ravens)
2. Divisional records. Pats would be 6-0, Ravens 6-0, Denver 6-0
3. Common Games:
Pats would have beaten Houston who beat both Baltimore and Denver which is the only common game between all 3 teams.
Thus, in a 3 way tie of 13-3 teams, the Pats get the tiebreaker.
Now, if they all end 12-4, things get really sticky. For the Pats to get the tie breaker in that scenario, they need Denver to lose a non-divisional game. If the Patriots and Ravens end up with the same divisional record (6-0) and the Broncos end up with a worse divisional record, the Ravens get the tiebreaker. Similarly, if the Pats go 6-0 in the AFC East, but the Ravens lose a divisional game, the Pats would get the tiebreaker over Denver. |
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mcmurtry86
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Remember when people thought Gabe Carimi was going to be good? |
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NinjaZX6R 
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Remember when people thought Gabe Carimi was going to be good? |
I liked him
I was wrong. _________________
| Tzimisce wrote: | I accidentally opened this topic while trying to get to the Titus Young topic.
Now I have AIDS.
Thanks a lot, NBT. |
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Tzimisce 
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