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mco65 
Joined: 04 Feb 2011 Posts: 534 Location: US
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| For me its worth the added expense to BE at the game but there is a limit to what I will and can spend. I had season tix 20 years ago to Texas Stadium (cowboys). For similar seats in the new stadium it would cost me 10x as much.. i don't make 10x as much as i did back then.. so I cant afford season tix any longer.. now I simply try to make 1 game a year at the new Stadium. The cost is definitely detrimental to attendance. |
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_Iverson38 
Joined: 06 Oct 2011 Posts: 285 Location: GV MN
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| FirstDownFaulk wrote: | This is a non issue because there are always going to be people that prefer the atmosphere and experience of the live event. I think that for most Americans it's either one of these issues or a combination of them...
1. Money - It has become too expensive for the average American family to attend football games. When you add up the cost of gas, ticket prices, concessions, etc.....you're looking at a family of 3 dropping anywhere from $300-$500 for something they can enjoy in the comfort of their own home. Again....the experience may outweigh the cost for some.
2. Time - I was a Patriots' a season ticket holder (until I moved to NY seven years ago) since '83 and grew up/lived 30 minutes from the stadium. I would usually be there tail-gating by 10-11 most mornings for a 1pm game. The issue was getting home. I'd find myself waiting in jampacked parking lots for 2-2.5 hours most Sundays. Again....the experience may outweigh this inconvenience for some.
3. Weather - I know many people that would prefer to sit in the warmth of their living room to fighting off hypothermia in 10 degree wind chills. Again....the experience may outweigh this discomfort for some.
4. Crowds/People - Some people would just prefer to walk to their fridge and get a drink instead of waiting in line for 45 minutes to spend $9.00 on a watered down 12oz beer. Also, with the recent spotlight on obnoxious/violent fans, some don't feel it's worth the risk going to games. Personally, I've never had an issue with obnoxious fans but they've been around me and all it takes is a simple response to stir something up. As I said, I haven't been a part of the nonsense, but I've witnessed it COUNTLESS times. |
I would also add the TV timeouts to this list. Those things are BRUTAL to sit through. Especially the TD - commercial - Kickoff - commercial bullish*t they started doing a few years ago.
The NFL can't keep adding these little alienating things and not expect some sort of backlash. |
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MaddHatter 
Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 41475 Location: Dallas, TX
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| mco65 wrote: | | For me its worth the added expense to BE at the game but there is a limit to what I will and can spend. I had season tix 20 years ago to Texas Stadium (cowboys). For similar seats in the new stadium it would cost me 10x as much.. i don't make 10x as much as i did back then.. so I cant afford season tix any longer.. now I simply try to make 1 game a year at the new Stadium. The cost is definitely detrimental to attendance. |
Have you seen the "America's Parking Lot" movie going around? Gate 6 documentary - good stuff and speaks to what you're talking about _________________
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bucsfan333 
Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 21939 Location: Kempes on the sig
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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The Bucs advertise tickets for $30-$40 and they still don't sell.  _________________
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Boltstrikes 
 Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 5106 Location: LA MIRADA, CA
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Like has been touched on. Going to a game monopolizes my Sunday. Take out the huge price difference and there is still the argument that I can watch the game from home and still have most of my day free vs the all day commitment going to Qualcomm entails for me. Maybe if my team cared more about winning they'd be worth the whole day but right now they are pushing being worth the approximately 8 hours a week I spend watching or talking about them. _________________
| EverythingSF wrote: | | But I do feel Alex is better than Rivers and we may as well not even argue over it here because I am pretty sure neither will change the others mind. |
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SnA ExclusiVe 
Joined: 01 Jun 2011 Posts: 10614 Location: Spokane, WA
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah the obvious problems:
Prices
Stoppages in play
Convenience
Those all factor in. Goodell shouldn't be worried about TV's getting better and better, he should be concerned and prices continuously being jacked up, stoppages in play every 30 seconds, and basically it just not being very convenient to go to a game. It's a fun experience if you go like once or twice or something like that, but after that it just turns to nothing but blowing money.
If he wants to improve fan turnout, lower the prices, less TV commercials (which obviously won't happen because Roger is all about that money!), and figure out ways to make it more convenient and enjoyable to go to games (maybe, idk, figure out a way to stop the stabbings and shootings? That's a start). _________________
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SaveourSonics 
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 45445 Location: Sleepless in Seattle
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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I love going to games. Seattle is a great atmosphere, the stadium is really nice, and it's somewhat of a tradition for my dad and I to go. I might prefer TV if my team was broadcast on CBS instead of FOX  _________________
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Swift21
Joined: 20 Oct 2011 Posts: 729 Location: SF
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Unless it's a monday night game I'm definitely not attending any Niner games. NFL Sunday ticket junkie here. _________________
| SaveourSonics wrote: | | Pete is just an arrogant wanna-be Jim Harbaugh but he's just not as smart. |  |
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phillipraz
Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 2608 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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i feel attending games as a fan of the visiting team has not been a pleasant experience the past few times ive gone. i dont expect the red carpet to be rolled out or anything, but too many people are getting out of hand which ruins the experience for me. unless its phx or san diego (which are close for me), dont think id travel to any visiting stadiums anymore. _________________
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J Pep 4 Step 
Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 25262 Location: Greenvillain, NC
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | J Pep 4 Step wrote: | | Just looked at the ticket prices for Panthers at Chiefs. Theres a grip of them for 6 bucks each. Maybe the issue is that too many of you root for good teams. Root for a crappy team. Its much easier on the wallet. | Well its about quality of team and quantity of fanbase. For me as a Bears fan I can't get a ticket at face value, b/c the second market gobbles them up immediately after going on sale, which means I have to go to stub hub. If I want to go see the Vikes at Bears next week, I have to pay $160/ticket for 400 level seats. Conversely 2 weeks after that I can go to Bears at Minny (a bit further away, but not terrible) for $109 on stub hub, but there are probably face value tickets still available for the metrodome. But yeah, unless it's the NFCCG I aint doing soldier field in the rain or snow, no thanks. |
I know it's neither here nor there, but those were stubhub prices. I wouldnt know where else to look for Chiefs tix. Pretty wild, eh? 6 bucks. I bet you could trade a couple ham sammiches or packs of newports for a pair. _________________
| jrry32 wrote: | | Faulk's argument style is reminiscent of Mark Sanchez's passing style. Inconsistent as hell and all over the place. I'm just waiting for him to run into iPwn's butt and fumble. |
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Tom Shean 
Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 4599 Location: Tha 703
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| _Iverson38 wrote: | | FirstDownFaulk wrote: | This is a non issue because there are always going to be people that prefer the atmosphere and experience of the live event. I think that for most Americans it's either one of these issues or a combination of them...
1. Money - It has become too expensive for the average American family to attend football games. When you add up the cost of gas, ticket prices, concessions, etc.....you're looking at a family of 3 dropping anywhere from $300-$500 for something they can enjoy in the comfort of their own home. Again....the experience may outweigh the cost for some.
2. Time - I was a Patriots' a season ticket holder (until I moved to NY seven years ago) since '83 and grew up/lived 30 minutes from the stadium. I would usually be there tail-gating by 10-11 most mornings for a 1pm game. The issue was getting home. I'd find myself waiting in jampacked parking lots for 2-2.5 hours most Sundays. Again....the experience may outweigh this inconvenience for some.
3. Weather - I know many people that would prefer to sit in the warmth of their living room to fighting off hypothermia in 10 degree wind chills. Again....the experience may outweigh this discomfort for some.
4. Crowds/People - Some people would just prefer to walk to their fridge and get a drink instead of waiting in line for 45 minutes to spend $9.00 on a watered down 12oz beer. Also, with the recent spotlight on obnoxious/violent fans, some don't feel it's worth the risk going to games. Personally, I've never had an issue with obnoxious fans but they've been around me and all it takes is a simple response to stir something up. As I said, I haven't been a part of the nonsense, but I've witnessed it COUNTLESS times. |
I would also add the TV timeouts to this list. Those things are BRUTAL to sit through. Especially the TD - commercial - Kickoff - commercial bullish*t they started doing a few years ago.
The NFL can't keep adding these little alienating things and not expect some sort of backlash. |
Almost as annoying as - commercial - punt - commercial. _________________
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Superman(DH23) 
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 16419 Location: Abdi on the sick sig
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| J Pep 4 Step wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | J Pep 4 Step wrote: | | Just looked at the ticket prices for Panthers at Chiefs. Theres a grip of them for 6 bucks each. Maybe the issue is that too many of you root for good teams. Root for a crappy team. Its much easier on the wallet. | Well its about quality of team and quantity of fanbase. For me as a Bears fan I can't get a ticket at face value, b/c the second market gobbles them up immediately after going on sale, which means I have to go to stub hub. If I want to go see the Vikes at Bears next week, I have to pay $160/ticket for 400 level seats. Conversely 2 weeks after that I can go to Bears at Minny (a bit further away, but not terrible) for $109 on stub hub, but there are probably face value tickets still available for the metrodome. But yeah, unless it's the NFCCG I aint doing soldier field in the rain or snow, no thanks. |
I know it's neither here nor there, but those were stubhub prices. I wouldnt know where else to look for Chiefs tix. Pretty wild, eh? 6 bucks. I bet you could trade a couple ham sammiches or packs of newports for a pair. | I have known people who have gotten into a royals game for free on game day before b/c the stadium was so empty. Cigs in MO are hella cheap tho, so it would probably take at least 2 packs of Newports
If the NFL really wants to get fans in seats they need to prevent the secondary market vendors from buying up all the tickets until gameday. _________________
| OneBadCat wrote: | | Ahah Okay first of all Gamble was lost to IR this year but when healthy he proved to be 2nd only to Revis last season. |
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nagahide13 
Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 10452 Location: Stumptown
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Wait, wait, wait... He's concerned that TV, which has pretty much always given a variety of better angles, convenience of home, price difference, replay, commentating, etc etc etc is just NOW catching up to actually going to a game, where you're pretty much guaranteed a fairly poor view from 1 angle, bad food, expensive everything, and silly amounts of time wasted in between going from your front door to your seat and back? Just now?
TV has ALWAYS had this advantage. Always.
Always. _________________
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Brodie
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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They need to lower prices plain and simple.
I went to the Andre Ward championship fight for $120 a ticket and got freaking awesome seats (I could see everything in the ring perfect, was super close). For that same price I could go to ONE raiders game if I want actual good seats. No way one football game should cost as much as a championship boxing match. Dont know what the prices are this year but went to a game last year and payed around 100 for the ticket _________________
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shawn
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| SaveourSonics wrote: | I love going to games. Seattle is a great atmosphere, the stadium is really nice, and it's somewhat of a tradition for my dad and I to go. I might prefer TV if my team was broadcast on CBS instead of FOX  |
This x100
fox is horrible _________________
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