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AlexGreen#20


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomRalph wrote:
sayheykid wrote:
So, what has Mallett done to be in the second tier besides have a big arm and sit next to Brady?

He was a very good QB in college and the only thing stopping him from being a 1st Round lock was his character concerns and alleged drug use.


You're ability to say this with the absolute confidence that you do staggers me. Mallett was not a perfect prospect that rumors of cocaine addiction severely damaged his draft stock.

The biggest problem with Mallett (other than the fact that he may or may not have been a degenerate crack addict) was that he was pretty putrid under pressure. His footwork went to hell, his accuracy followed it and his decision making was poor at best. He was a statue in the pocket which pretty much damages a guys standing regardless of his ability to throw a ball through a cinderblock wall.

In the NFL guys don't get a clean pocket to throw. So the options were either try and develop him and clean that up or put him in a situation where he can succeed. Just so happens that the Patriots were the best place for him to land to fulfill both of those requirements to the highest possible degree. Probably the reason he's playing in New England now if you think about it.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terrelle Pryor.

He runs a 4.3. Winning.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Terrelle Pryor.

He runs a 4.3. Winning.


Wow I totally forgot about that guy. He really messed up over the whole tattoo thing

He literally could have road the Cam Newton wave of success to a 1st round draft pick without that whole suspension debacle
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBIB wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Terrelle Pryor.

He runs a 4.3. Winning.


Wow I totally forgot about that guy. He really messed up over the whole tattoo thing

He literally could have road the Cam Newton wave of success to a 1st round draft pick without that whole suspension debacle


Except Cam was 100x better than him, so no. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

goldfishwars wrote:
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Tebow is the best backup out there IMO. He led a 1-4 team to the playoffs and a first round playoff win last year.


Good spot, I think most of us missed that.

The way some people talk, you might be right. I'll just keep reminding the negative nancy's about last year.

Tebow is in a situation that is about as disfunctional as any in the league in New York, but we all saw last year what he was capable of. He is can do great things - if given the chance.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uncle Buck wrote:
goldfishwars wrote:
Uncle Buck wrote:
Tebow is the best backup out there IMO. He led a 1-4 team to the playoffs and a first round playoff win last year.


Good spot, I think most of us missed that.

The way some people talk, you might be right. I'll just keep reminding the negative nancy's about last year.

Tebow is in a situation that is about as disfunctional as any in the league in New York, but we all saw last year what he was capable of. He is can do great things - if given the chance.


The "Tebows record" argument is very, very similar to the "Mark Sanchez playoff" argument. No one wins this one. Tyler Wilson better like green and white. Rex is going to LA after this year
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tebow doesn't fit in a backup QB role. You can't stick him in and run the same offense, which is what a backup should be able to do.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can we add Henne? i really thought he would be bagging groceries by next year, but today he just earned 5 more years of backup duties in the NFL.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Webb is underrated, and its probably because he's not even close to being a conventional QB.

But in the right system, Webb could start and be a good QB. He's pretty much the same player as Tebow, but probably better with much less hype.

My number 1 backup though is Shaun Hill
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So....Kaepernick may be better than i thought Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tier 4- Colin Kaepernick, Byron Leftwich, Drew Stanton, Brock Osweiler



Leftwich on the same tier that Colin Kaepernick Confused Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin Kaepernick, a tier below David Carr. hmm.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

baysik wrote:
Colin Kaepernick, a tier below David Carr. hmm.


And two below Jason Campbell. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hindsight is 20/0 guys. Let's not act like all of you posting at how silly it was to have Campbell, Carr or Leftwich on the same tier or below were in here calling for Kaep to have a game like this. He showed what he can do and is obviously one of the best back ups in the NFL but let's not act like BEFORE this game, it was out of the realm of possibility that he was on the same tier as guys i mentioned above.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol i dont think anyone is suggesting that. it's just humorous to look back and see what we thought.

kind of like the "bold predictions" threads we revisit at the end of the season!
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