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 Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: NFL.com: Top Backup QB's |
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000094858/article/backup-quarterbacks-who-has-best-contingency-plan-worst
| Quote: | » I reached out to three highly respected personnel executives and asked them to give each of the 14 backup quarterbacks on winning teams a letter grade of A, B or C.
» Each A grade = 3 points
» Each B grade = 2 points
» Each C grade = 1 points
» After totaling the points, I separated the quarterbacks into five different tiers.
Only one player received straight A's. |
3 "highly respected" anonymous personnel executives ranked the 14 backup QB's on winning teams. There are several tiers in the article.
You can check the article for the entire breakdown and analysis, but here's his tiers...
Tier 1- TJ Yates
Tier 2- Jason Campbell, Matt Flynn, Ryan Mallett
Tier 3- David Carr, Joe Webb
Tier 4- Colin Kaepernick, Byron Leftwich, Drew Stanton, Brock Osweiler
Tier 5- Graham Harrell, Luke McCown, Dan Orlovsky, Tyrod Taylor
Thoughts on the QB ranking? Would your own backup QB ranking differ?
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: NFL.com: Top Backup QB's |
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| 49ersfan wrote: | http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000094858/article/backup-quarterbacks-who-has-best-contingency-plan-worst
| Quote: | » I reached out to three highly respected personnel executives and asked them to give each of the 14 backup quarterbacks on winning teams a letter grade of A, B or C.
» Each A grade = 3 points
» Each B grade = 2 points
» Each C grade = 1 points
» After totaling the points, I separated the quarterbacks into five different tiers.
Only one player received straight A's. |
3 "highly respected" anonymous personnel executives ranked the 14 backup QB's on winning teams. There are several tiers in the article.
You can check the article for the entire breakdown and analysis, but here's his tiers...
Tier 1- TJ Yates |
I'm smiling, but I think Yates is getting a LOT of this love due to his heroics last season for the Texans in his run. Guy is good, a solid fit for our system...but there are a few lower tiered guys I would take, guys with higher upside.
But for now, I'll take Tier 1. 
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Chad Henne >>>> Gabbert doe.
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49ersfan
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: NFL.com: Top Backup QB's |
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| EliteTexan80 wrote: | I'm smiling, but I think Yates is getting a LOT of this love due to his heroics last season for the Texans in his run. Guy is good, a solid fit for our system...but there are a few lower tiered guys I would take, guys with higher upside.
But for now, I'll take Tier 1. |
I think i would take Matt Flynn and maybe Joe Webb over him. Jason Campbell is solid too. But Yates has a lot of experience and he did win a playoff game...something not a lot of backup QB's can say.
Still think Shaun Hill is the best backup in the NFL, but he's not on a winning team so he wasn't ranked in this list. Tarvaris Jackson is a solid backup too, not many backups have as many starts as he's had. David Carr only does well with the Giants because he was terrible everywhere else. He's a specific fit for the Giants system and maybe the Bucs under Mike Sullivan (who coached for the NYG).
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| I think Kaepernick is underrated, I think Flynn should be tier 1, What the hell has Brock Osweiler done to be ahead of anybody? I would take Orlovsky over Osweiler right now. Joe Webb should be where Orlovsky is. |
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| MNPackfan32 wrote: | | I think Kaepernick is underrated, I think Flynn should be tier 1, What the hell has Brock Osweiler done to be ahead of anybody? I would take Orlovsky over Osweiler right now. Joe Webb should be where Orlovsky is. |
He was John Elways draft pick and his current project for when Manning retires.
John Elway was a great QB
John Elway can draft great QBs
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Osweiler is a sure thing.
What a joke.
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| MNPackfan32 wrote: | | I think Kaepernick is underrated, I think Flynn should be tier 1, What the hell has Brock Osweiler done to be ahead of anybody? I would take Orlovsky over Osweiler right now. Joe Webb should be where Orlovsky is. |
Why? Joe Webb can actually win games. I can't remember the last time Orlovsky won a game.
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So...all the best backups are on the leagues best teams?
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| MNPackfan32 wrote: | | I think Kaepernick is underrated, I think Flynn should be tier 1, What the hell has Brock Osweiler done to be ahead of anybody? I would take Orlovsky over Osweiler right now. Joe Webb should be where Orlovsky is. |
I watched Colin Kaepernick play against the Rams on Sunday. He looked worse than Webb did as a rookie, and much worse than Webb did a year ago (his second season).
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It's really hard to rank Colin Kaepernick at this point. Not a very big sample size. Guy has a cannon for an arm, has wheels for days, but has a fumble problem. So, at this point, I would be fine whether someone put him in Tier 1 or Tier 5. Not enough to go on.
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The steelers are in trouble 
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: NFL.com: Top Backup QB's |
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| 49ersfan wrote: | | EliteTexan80 wrote: | I'm smiling, but I think Yates is getting a LOT of this love due to his heroics last season for the Texans in his run. Guy is good, a solid fit for our system...but there are a few lower tiered guys I would take, guys with higher upside.
But for now, I'll take Tier 1. |
I think i would take Matt Flynn and maybe Joe Webb over him. Jason Campbell is solid too. But Yates has a lot of experience and he did win a playoff game...something not a lot of backup QB's can say. |
I think the execs in question put a premium on that, but I also think they put a big premium on the composure and maturity TJ Yates displayed when he was forced into the lineup.
Think about it - rookie, 5th round rookie, 3rd string QB who was expected to carry a clipboard while Matt Schaub and Matt Leinart did the heavy lifting...and bang/bang, he's now a starter for a 7-3 team, a team that had insurmountable pressure to make the playoffs for the first time in team history. Most - if not ALL - rookies with his pedigree would of just wilted under this pressure.
What does TJ do? Well, according to coaches and teammates, he "took ownership of the job and ownership of the team" in that six weeks. He made it a point to work non-stop with the former QBs and Greg Knapp (a HUGE reason for his performance) to constantly stay ahead of what defenses were trying to do to him. He would call WRs together after practice and hold skeleton drills with them - running 40-50 plays, just to get timing down with each of his WRs. He'd be the first one in team meetings, last one out of the facility, sitting at the front of the classroom in meetings, and constantly giving everyone feedback on what he was seeing, and what he could do to make everything work better.
For a 5th round rookie who is brand new to the NFL world, that sort of dedication and prep shows a level of maturity, composure and willingness to do what it took to be the man for this team - even if that time was short lived as the starting QB of an NFL team.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: NFL.com: Top Backup QB's |
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| EliteTexan80 wrote: | | 49ersfan wrote: | http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000094858/article/backup-quarterbacks-who-has-best-contingency-plan-worst
| Quote: | » I reached out to three highly respected personnel executives and asked them to give each of the 14 backup quarterbacks on winning teams a letter grade of A, B or C.
» Each A grade = 3 points
» Each B grade = 2 points
» Each C grade = 1 points
» After totaling the points, I separated the quarterbacks into five different tiers.
Only one player received straight A's. |
3 "highly respected" anonymous personnel executives ranked the 14 backup QB's on winning teams. There are several tiers in the article.
You can check the article for the entire breakdown and analysis, but here's his tiers...
Tier 1- TJ Yates |
I'm smiling, but I think Yates is getting a LOT of this love due to his heroics last season for the Texans in his run. Guy is good, a solid fit for our system...but there are a few lower tiered guys I would take, guys with higher upside.
But for now, I'll take Tier 1. |
I like Yates. He's my starting QB in Madden.
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I would create a tier 6, just for Graham Harrell. Maybe if Brian Brohm is still slinking around somewhere he can join. Harrell is really, really bad.
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| Vikefan79 wrote: | | MNPackfan32 wrote: | | I think Kaepernick is underrated, I think Flynn should be tier 1, What the hell has Brock Osweiler done to be ahead of anybody? I would take Orlovsky over Osweiler right now. Joe Webb should be where Orlovsky is. |
Why? Joe Webb can actually win games. I can't remember the last time Orlovsky won a game. |
Orlovsky went 2-3 on a 0-11 team last year.
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