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Richter
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| Colton wrote: | Guess it can't even get passed the first page without bringing Manning up eh? Ya, this team and last years team have very little in common.
Anyways, this game could be an old fashioned shoot-out. I might have missed something, but I think the pats have lost to the last two rookie QBs they've faced (Wilson and McCoy back in 2010. Again, may have missed one though). So that may bode well for Andrew. BUT, he's been very meh on the road. 2:7 TD:INT ratio on the road this year. Like some other Colts fans have said, it's going to be a good measuring test for Luck and the rest of the Colts team. |
What are you talking about? They already beat Mark Sanchez this year.
Oh, right, he just plays like a rookie. |
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TomRalph
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Colton wrote: | Guess it can't even get passed the first page without bringing Manning up eh? Ya, this team and last years team have very little in common.
Anyways, this game could be an old fashioned shoot-out. I might have missed something, but I think the pats have lost to the last two rookie QBs they've faced (Wilson and McCoy back in 2010. Again, may have missed one though). So that may bode well for Andrew. BUT, he's been very meh on the road. 2:7 TD:INT ratio on the road this year. Like some other Colts fans have said, it's going to be a good measuring test for Luck and the rest of the Colts team. |
If he doesn't throw for at least 350 on this secondary then he's a bust.
That's the measuring stick 
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coltsmanic808
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Your d is still top 10 for run defense right? Luck is going to have to sling it regardless I guess. Reggie Wayne could be in for a big day unless he's double and triple covered.
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Tzimisce
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| coltsmanic808 wrote: | | Your d is still top 10 for run defense right? Luck is going to have to sling it regardless I guess. Reggie Wayne could be in for a big day unless he's double and triple covered. |
I'm actually more scared of Donnie Avery. He had a huge game against the Pats as a rookie in '08, and then tore his ACL against 'em in preseason '10. I'm sure he'll be extra motivated for this game.
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Pats#1
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Well the one thing I've learned over the past couple seasons with this team is that they like to make games that should be a comfortable win very uncomfortable and even a loss in some instances.
As for this game I do believe the Pats SHOULD win by two scores, however who knows if that is what will happen.
I honestly have no idea how the Colts defense is and how it might match up with our weapons.
Can anyone break it down a little bit for me?
Thanks
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samgurl775
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| TomRalph wrote: | | Colton wrote: | Guess it can't even get passed the first page without bringing Manning up eh? Ya, this team and last years team have very little in common.
Anyways, this game could be an old fashioned shoot-out. I might have missed something, but I think the pats have lost to the last two rookie QBs they've faced (Wilson and McCoy back in 2010. Again, may have missed one though). So that may bode well for Andrew. BUT, he's been very meh on the road. 2:7 TD:INT ratio on the road this year. Like some other Colts fans have said, it's going to be a good measuring test for Luck and the rest of the Colts team. |
If he doesn't throw for at least 350 on this secondary then he's a bust.
That's the measuring stick |
We let Dan Orlovsky throw for 353 yards last year. Dan. Orlovsky. I'm willing to bet Luck has a huge day.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| samgurl775 wrote: | | We let Dan Orlovsky throw for 353 yards last year. Dan. Orlovsky. I'm willing to bet Luck has a huge day. |
Yeah, 240 of which came in the fourth quarter, which started with the Colts down by 28. If Luck is down by 28 and the Patriots go into the prevent defense, then Luck can do it too. Otherwise, I doubt it.
Passing yards by quarter in that game:
1st: 73
2nd: 0 (seriously)
3rd: 40
4th: 240
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Pats#1
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Sciz wrote: | | samgurl775 wrote: | | We let Dan Orlovsky throw for 353 yards last year. Dan. Orlovsky. I'm willing to bet Luck has a huge day. |
Yeah, 240 of which came in the fourth quarter, which started with the Colts down by 28. If Luck is down by 28 and the Patriots go into the prevent defense, then Luck can do it too. Otherwise, I doubt it.
Passing yards by quarter in that game:
1st: 73
2nd: 0 (seriously)
3rd: 40
4th: 240 |
They must have realized they were playing with "All-Madden" settings and switched to "Pro" at the start of the 4th.
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Tom Shean
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Both Brady and Luck will put up points. The question is can Luck keep up with Brady?
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samgurl775
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| Sciz wrote: | | samgurl775 wrote: | | We let Dan Orlovsky throw for 353 yards last year. Dan. Orlovsky. I'm willing to bet Luck has a huge day. |
Yeah, 240 of which came in the fourth quarter, which started with the Colts down by 28. If Luck is down by 28 and the Patriots go into the prevent defense, then Luck can do it too. Otherwise, I doubt it.
Passing yards by quarter in that game:
1st: 73
2nd: 0 (seriously)
3rd: 40
4th: 240 |
We were one Hail Mary away from going to overtime (and likely losing) in that game. I don't care when the yards came - Andrew Luck is better than Orlovsky and if the defense poops itself like it did last year, things won't look pretty for us.
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mcmurtry86
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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The Pats let Mark Sanchez throw for a 68% comp pct and 328 yards.
I see no reason to think they can hold Luck to anything worse than 65% completion for 380+ yards unless the Colts exploit the Pats softness against draw plays and take the ball out of Luck's hands. |
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Sciz
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| samgurl775 wrote: | | We were one Hail Mary away from going to overtime (and likely losing) in that game. I don't care when the yards came - Andrew Luck is better than Orlovsky and if the defense poops itself like it did last year, things won't look pretty for us. |
The Colts were down 7 with 36 seconds and no TOs left and needing to recover an onside kick. There's less than a 1% chance they win the game from that point, considering the onside kick alone has about a 10% chance of success.
And based on last week's game, I'm guessing we're not going to see the prevent defense again for a while. The coaches would rather see 60 minutes of hard defensive play.
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samgurl775
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Sciz wrote: | | samgurl775 wrote: | | We were one Hail Mary away from going to overtime (and likely losing) in that game. I don't care when the yards came - Andrew Luck is better than Orlovsky and if the defense poops itself like it did last year, things won't look pretty for us. |
The Colts were down 7 with 36 seconds and no TOs left and needing to recover an onside kick. There's less than a 1% chance they win the game from that point, considering the onside kick alone has about a 10% chance of success.
And based on last week's game, I'm guessing we're not going to see the prevent defense again for a while. The coaches would rather see 60 minutes of hard defensive play. |
Well admittedly I had forgotten they also needed to recover the onside kick. But still. I agree with mcmurtry, I don't see any reason to think Luck won't put up astronomical numbers.
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mcmurtry86
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Sciz wrote: | | samgurl775 wrote: | | We were one Hail Mary away from going to overtime (and likely losing) in that game. I don't care when the yards came - Andrew Luck is better than Orlovsky and if the defense poops itself like it did last year, things won't look pretty for us. |
The Colts were down 7 with 36 seconds and no TOs left and needing to recover an onside kick. There's less than a 1% chance they win the game from that point, considering the onside kick alone has about a 10% chance of success.
And based on last week's game, I'm guessing we're not going to see the prevent defense again for a while. The coaches would rather see 60 minutes of hard defensive play. |
The Patriots "regular" pass defense is every bit as abysmal as last year's "prevent" defense. And the troubling thing is that the Pats have gotten destroyed by really mediocre or downright bad QB's. Luck, while far from a polished star, is much better than most of the QB's the Pats have faced thus far.
The Pats have nothing in the way of a consistent pass rush and their secondary would probably be setting records had they faced more than 1 good QB (Manning). That they're giving up a 97.3 opposing QB rating despite having faced Locker, Kolb, Wilson, Sanchez, Fitzpatrick, Bradford and Flacco is staggering.
If Andrew Luck doesn't come close to (re-)breaking the rookie QB passing mark, it is because the Pats are able to control the clock and keep him off the field. I honestly think he could put up 450 yards on this defense if the Pats offense can't stay on the field. Luckily for New England, the Colts defense is also putrid. |
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NextBigThing
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Psh, luck aint doing shiz because CHANDLER is coming to BRING THE CHAOS...
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