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meixdaddy_10 
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:48 pm Post subject: Meixdaddy's Magical Minnesota Mock |
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Now that the Combine is over I thought I would throw a mock together.
Resignings:
OL- Loadholt, Kropog
WR-Simpson, Burton (PS)
FB/RB- Felton, Asiata (3RB/ST)
LB- Brinkley, Mitchell (ST), McKenzie (ST)
DB- Sanford, Jefferson
Cuts/Departures:
OL- Schwartz, Berger
WR- Jenkins, Aromashodu
DL- Evans
LB- Henderson
DB-Sendejo
QB-Webb
TE- Carlson
Extended/Restructured
DE- Allen
DT- Williams
OL- Johnson
CB- Winfield
I think with the cuts and restructures we have enough to extend Harvin and resign Loadholt and sign one premier FA.
FA Acquisitions:
WR Greg Jennings- I think we need to come out of the gate and get him ASAP!! It either gives us a veteran WR option to pair with Harvin for Ponder’s development or insurance as a replacement for Harvin if traded. I would like to see us keep both. Green Bay may tag Jennings but I doubt it will happen. They have a good nucleus of younger WR’s.
OG/OT Eben Britton- I saw this guy in another mock and thought it was a spot on Spielman type signing (kudos Robbroy45). Very versatile as he can play along the majority of the line and that’s what our front office loves.
QB Tyler Thigpen- Not a fan of this year’s FA crop of QB’s but we need someone other than Webb.
DE Antwan Applewhite – purely depth signing
Trades
DE Brian Robison, 4th RD (#117), and 7th RD (#213) to Tampa Bay for 3rd RD (#73)..With Tampa Bay going on record saying they don’t want to use the Franchise Tag on LE Bennett (who I think walks) they need to find a replacement. With Griffen waiting in the wings the Vikes pull the trigger. I think this values Robison as a mid/late 4th.
2013 NFL Draft
A couple of guys may not be there where I have them, but some guys are gonna drop and some are gonna be borderline close to where I have them.
Round 1 (#23) CB Desmond Trufant, Washington- This kid blew up the Senior Bowl, and then body-slammed the Combine. He solidified a 1st Round pick and already looks good in purple. I know a lot of people won’t like this pick but I don’t trust Cook to finish a full season and Winfield is done after this year. Need to groom Robinson or Jefferson for the inside. I just hope Trufant lasts this long.
Round 2 (#52) LB Sio Moore, UCONN- Another kid that blew up the combine, Moore registered 274 career tackles for the Huskies as a three-year starter while proving his ability to make an impact at the line of scrimmage, behind it and as a pass defender. If he’s gone by our pick I think LB Khaseem Greene will still be on the board and would be taken.
Round 3 (#73 via TB) WR Woods, USC- This is a spot where I think we take someone whose stock is dropping. It’s not because of his skills but because of who’s rising and his ankle injury concerns. Some say late first, early second but I don’t see it. Savvy hands-catcher and does a nice job making plays in stride. Woods is a polished and crafty route runner and does a nice job changing speeds in his patterns to keep defenders off balance. If he’s gone take your pick of any remaining WR (Patton/Williams/Rogers).
Round 3 (#83) DT Brandon Williams, Missouri Southern- A guy that might go higher and had a good Combine. Despite possessing the frame of a traditional run-stuffing nose tackle, Williams was used up and down the line at Missouri Southern and proved to be quite a pass rushing terror, smashing the school record with 27 career sacks. Williams also picked up his third straight AFCA All-America Team honor by finishing third in the nation in forced fumbles with five.
Round 4 (#99 via DET) S T.J. McDonald, USC- A guy I see falling due to others rising up boards and a great compliment to Smith. McDonald looks the part of a traditional NFL safety, possessing broad shoulders, a trim middle and impressive overall musculature. Moved all around as part of USC's defense in 2012, lining up as a single centerfielder, a corner covering slot receivers, a blitzing linebacker up the middle or off the edge and in his more familiar two-deep package.
Round 5 (#148) DE Lavar Edwards, LSU- Edwards, who is 6 feet 4 and 277 pounds had one of his better seasons in a reserve role, although he started six of the Tigers' 12 games. He had a career high 4.5 sacks and seven tackles for loss with three quarterback hurries and his second career interception, on which he returned the ball 23 yards for a touchdown against Idaho.
Round 6 (#166 via TN) C Braxston Crave, Notre Dame- AKA John Sullivan 2.0, Cave was the anchor of Notre Dame's offensive line in 2012. Cave is tough and strong at the point of attack with good base strength and balance in his stance. He works hard to gain body position to create run lanes. Shows good awareness to pick up the blitz and is known as a smart, heady player. Plus he’s a golden domer and Spielman has to take at least one.
Round 7 (#197 via AZ) TE Zach Sudfeld, Nevada- Sudfeld's greatest asset is his combination of size (6-foot-7, 255 pounds), athleticism and good hands. Sudfeld was one of eight semifinalists for the Mackey Award, which is given to the top tight end in the nation. He was a second-team All-Mountain West pick. Had some injury concerns but it’s the 7th round so we take a flier.
Depth Chart
Red- FA , Green-Draft
Offense
QB- Ponder, Thigpen, MBT
RB – Peterson, Gerhart, Asiata
FB- Felton
WR1- Harvin, Simpson
WR2- Jennings, Childs (PUP), Burton(PS)
WR3- Wright, Woods
TE- Rudolph, Ellison, Sudfeld
LT- Kalil
LG- Britton, Johnson (backup G/T)
C- Sullivan, Crave
RG- Fusco, Kropog (backup G/T)
RT- Loadholt
Defense/Special Teams
LE- Griffen, Edwards, Applewhite
UT- K. Williams, Ballard
NT- Guion, B. Williams
RE- Allen, Reed
SLB- Greenway, Dean (ST)
MLB- Brinkley, Cole
WLB- Moore, Mitchell (ST), McKenzie (ST)
LCB- Trufant, Jefferson
S1- Smith, Blanton
S2- McDonald , Sanford, Raymond
RCB- Cook, Robinson
NCB- Winfield, Sherels
K- Walsh
P- Kluwe
LS- Loeffler
KR- Harvin, Sherels
PR- Sherels, Robinson
Sorry it was so long! I tried to edit it to look good but im not computer savvy.
Well lets see ya rip it apart!  _________________ AD is hotter than Madonna in a pointy bra!!! |
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rpmwr19 
 Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 17120 Location: Stillwater, MN
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Terrible, terrible value for Robison. He was a 4th round pick and has vastly outplayed that.
He was our best defensive lineman this past year and we trade him? _________________
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Boda
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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I don't mean to be completely negative but I don't like anything outside of us signing Jennings. Also very much in agreement that you have Robison vastly under-rated. He should be able to get us a 3rd rounder by himself if not a 2nd rounder which I believe is more towards his value. _________________
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vikesnewcoach11 
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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I agree thats awful value for Robison. Not a fan of signing Jennings either...it might happen...I just dont know if Im big on it _________________
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meixdaddy_10 
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| rpmwr19 wrote: | Terrible, terrible value for Robison. He was a 4th round pick and has vastly outplayed that.
He was our best defensive lineman this past year and we trade him? |
I agree its not ideal value for what we'd like but we need to be realistic here. Everyone is overvaluing our players because we always think theyre worth more than outsiders think. Plus GM's around the league are overvaluing draft picks like theyre gold, they dont want to give them up.
Example Harvin- everyone originally wanted a 1st plus a 3rd for him or something similar, yet we probably wont/wouldnt get that if it were to happen. Most sources say a 2nd/3rd and change(4th or 5th). Are you gonna tell me if one of the most explosive, young players in the league is only going to get that, that Robison can get at least a 2nd/3rd? I dont see it happening.
Yes he was arguably our best d-lineman but he's 30(in april), he's got one year left on his contract and will be due a nice pay raise. Also Allen and Griffen's contracts are coming due the same time as Robison's. Who do you keep? Obviously Allen, and with the whole Yute movement by Spielman i say he keeps Griffen instead of letting him walk. I dont see 3 good sized contracts at DE on this team. Could it happen, yes.
Im not bashing you personally, I just think everyone needs to be realistic. And it was easiest to just quote you
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vike daddy 

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| meixdaddy_10 wrote: | | Plus GM's around the league are overvaluing draft picks like theyre gold, they dont want to give them up. |
Alex Smith just went for the 33rd pick of the 1st round. AND another pick in the future. _________________
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KeithVikings28
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| This is just flat out bad on some many accounts. We get one starter out of this draft. |
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Boda
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| meixdaddy_10 wrote: | | rpmwr19 wrote: | Terrible, terrible value for Robison. He was a 4th round pick and has vastly outplayed that.
He was our best defensive lineman this past year and we trade him? |
I agree its not ideal value for what we'd like but we need to be realistic here. Everyone is overvaluing our players because we always think theyre worth more than outsiders think. Plus GM's around the league are overvaluing draft picks like theyre gold, they dont want to give them up.
Example Harvin- everyone originally wanted a 1st plus a 3rd for him or something similar, yet we probably wont/wouldnt get that if it were to happen. Most sources say a 2nd/3rd and change(4th or 5th). Are you gonna tell me if one of the most explosive, young players in the league is only going to get that, that Robison can get at least a 2nd/3rd? I dont see it happening.
Yes he was arguably our best d-lineman but he's 30(in april), he's got one year left on his contract and will be due a nice pay raise. Also Allen and Griffen's contracts are coming due the same time as Robison's. Who do you keep? Obviously Allen, and with the whole Yute movement by Spielman i say he keeps Griffen instead of letting him walk. I dont see 3 good sized contracts at DE on this team. Could it happen, yes.
Im not bashing you personally, I just think everyone needs to be realistic. And it was easiest to just quote you
I do appreciate and respect everyone's opinions, so thank you. |
There is a big difference between Robison & Harvin. Percy is labeled as injury prone(though I don't agree with it) & he could also be had for less because of his attitude. Add on the 12M/yr he wants and that's what is decreasing his value. For a team that needs a DE pretty badly Robison for a 2nd round pick makes a lot of sense. I'm a huge Long Horn fan but I do want the Vikes to go with Griffen. I fought hard for trying to get Robison a chance over Ray Edwards and now I believe that it's Everson's time. Maybe call up Atlanta and see if they'd give us a 2nd rounder for Robison idk. _________________
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rpmwr19 
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Robison may be 30, but he's only been a full time starter for two years. He's got quite a bit of mileage left on him. _________________
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meixdaddy_10 
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| vike daddy wrote: | | meixdaddy_10 wrote: | | Plus GM's around the league are overvaluing draft picks like theyre gold, they dont want to give them up. |
Alex Smith just went for the 33rd pick of the 1st round. AND another pick in the future. |
I think you meant 2nd an its technically the 34th, but i get what youre saying.
Big difference is he's a 28yr old QB who has played at a pretty high level the last couple years minus the concussion (which didnt limit him much, he just lost his job to a future superstar). QB is the most important position on the field. Its understandable that its going to be higher compensation.
If youre in need of a franchise qb do you spend a 2nd round pick on one who might make an impact in a couple of years, or do you find a QB who is proven and can make an immediate impact?
I think KC overpaid big time, I dont think they needed to give up more than a 3rd and late conditional draft pick. But they wanted to get their man and this year's crop of QB's is subpar. _________________ AD is hotter than Madonna in a pointy bra!!! |
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vike daddy 

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| meixdaddy_10 wrote: | | vike daddy wrote: | | meixdaddy_10 wrote: | | Plus GM's around the league are overvaluing draft picks like theyre gold, they dont want to give them up. |
Alex Smith just went for the 33rd pick of the 1st round. AND another pick in the future. |
I think you meant 2nd an its technically the 34th, but i get what youre saying. |
it was a joke. _________________
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arKnaD7 
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I'm not a huge fan of Trufant or McDonald, but I like the rest of the picks. _________________
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