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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:35 pm    Post subject: Predict the Roster: Preseason Edition Reply with quote

Previously: Predict The Roster: Pre-Camp Edition

Current Unofficial Depth Chart:




Who do you see on the 53?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(2) QB: Teddy Bridgewater, Shaun Hill
(4) RB: Adrian Peterson, Jerick McKinnon, Matt Asiata, Zach Line
(3) TE: Kyle Rudolph, MyCole Pruitt, David Morgan, Rhett Ellison (PUP)
(6) WR: Stefon Diggs, Laquon Treadwell, Adam Thielen, Jarius Wright, Charles Johnson, Cordarralle Patterson
(4) OT: Matt Kalil, Andre Smith, TJ Clemmings, Jeremiah Sirles
(4) OG: Alex Boone, Brandon Fusco, Joe Berger, Willie Beavers
(2) C: John Sullivan, Nick Easton

(4) DE: Everson Griffen, Danielle Hunter, Brian Robison, Justin Trattou
(5) DT: Linval Joseph, Sharrif Floyd, Tom Johnson, Shamar Stephen, Scott Crichton
(6) LB: Anthony Barr, Eric Kendricks, Chad Greenway, Emmanuel Lamur, Audie Cole, Edmond Robinson
(6) CB: Xavier Rhodes, Trae Waynes, Captain Munnerlyn, Mackensie Alexander, Terence Newman, Marcus Sherels
(4) S: Harrison Smith, Andrew Sendejo, Michael Griffin, Jayron Kearse

(3) ST: Blair Walsh, Jeff Locke, Kevin McDermott
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work, looks solid.

If Ellison is on the PUP, they have another roster spot for week 1.

I still wonder if Wright is on his way out. They could keep just 5 WRs, especially if Patterson shows enough to make it seem like he could actually play the position this year.

I'm betting Crichton is gone, unless he suddenly turns it on in preseason. Maybe they'll keep Zach Moore as the DE/DT type, if they want a 9th DL.

Agree that Cole is probably ahead of Brothers if they keep only 6 LBs.

I think they'll keep Harris. He's Smith's backup and was really good last year.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't argue with much of Heimdallr's roster, but my take;

(2) QB: Teddy Bridgewater, Shaun Hill
(4) RB: Adrian Peterson, Jerick McKinnon, Matt Asiata, Zach Line
(3) TE: Kyle Rudolph, MyCole Pruitt, David Morgan, Rhett Ellison (PUP)
(6) WR: Stefon Diggs, Laquon Treadwell, Adam Thielen, Jarius Wright, Charles Johnson, Cordarralle Patterson
(4) OT: Matt Kalil, Andre Smith, TJ Clemmings, Jeremiah Sirles
(4) OG: Alex Boone, Brandon Fusco, Joe Berger, Willie Beavers
(2) C: John Sullivan, Nick Easton

(4) DE: Everson Griffen, Danielle Hunter, Brian Robison, Zach Moore
(5) DT: Linval Joseph, Sharrif Floyd, Tom Johnson, Shamar Stephen, Scott Crichton
(6) LB: Anthony Barr, Eric Kendricks, Chad Greenway, Emmanuel Lamur, Edmond Robinson, Kentrell Brothers
(6) CB: Xavier Rhodes, Trae Waynes, Captain Munnerlyn, Mackensie Alexander, Terence Newman, Marcus Sherels
(4) S: Harrison Smith, Andrew Sendejo, Anthony Harris, Jayron Kearse

(3) ST: Blair Walsh, Jeff Locke, Kevin McDermott


My only changes are Zach Moore or Justin Trattou, I think the team takes Moore's potential over Trattou's. I think Brothers is kept over Cole. Cole is currently the backup ILB, but I just don't think he's one of Zimmer's favorite players. I think by the time that the 4th preseason game is over, Brothers will have earned his roster spot. And finally, Ant Harris over Michael Griffin. Nothing about Griffin looked remotely promising during my time at camp. And I just don't think he deserves a roster spot over one of the promising young players.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Semperfeist, you pretty much nailed it. I might switch Moore and Trattou, and I'm not all that confident in Scott Crichton, but he is versatile and that has to count for something.

if Wright doesn't have a spot on the team, then perhaps we trade him.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mostly consensus at this point, but I think our expectations will change quite a bit over the preseason.

Players rise and fall in the real games. Heading into preseason last year, Waynes seemed very likely to start week one, and Tyrus Thompson was the most promising young OL (based on his performance in 1-on-1 blocking drills in camp).

Injuries unfortunately will also be a factor. Hope they don't suffer anything comparable to losing Loadholt last year.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Ellis vs Crichton 5th DT spot will be interesting. If both Joseph and Stephen are healthy I have a hard time seeing them keeping a third nose tackle. As proven with the Ellis pick up last year, you can find run stuffers in a pinch that can be serviceable.

If Crichton shows anything as a DT in the pre season, and they keep 5 DTs, that spot would easily go to him in my mind. He plays special teams, and could also play end in a pinch or in certain 3-man front nickel looks.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was a fan of Crichton the year he was drafted, but unless he does something in preseason I don't know how he can make the team.

As far as I remember, he doesn't have a single sack or TFL in 2 years, even in preseason. He's missed time with injuries, but he's played quite a few rotational snaps, he's just done nothing with them. I think he's hurt again this week, which won't help his case.

They could keep just 8 DL, keep Ellis for depth at NT or Moore at DE (and he can play as a nickel DT too I think), or stash Weatherly on the roster as a developmental guy (who should be able to contribute on special teams given his athleticism). I'd rather see them do any of those than keep Crichton, unless he finally shows evidence of his potential in a game situation.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want nothing to do with Ellis. Just my observation, but when he came onto the field during the Saturday night scrimmage I was amazed at how beat up/old he looked. He was limping all over the place, he was hunched over as he walked, and he carrier his helmet like it weighed 50 pounds. Just do't see how he's even an option.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Krauser wrote:
I was a fan of Crichton the year he was drafted, but unless he does something in preseason I don't know how he can make the team.

As far as I remember, he doesn't have a single sack or TFL in 2 years, even in preseason. He's missed time with injuries, but he's played quite a few rotational snaps, he's just done nothing with them. I think he's hurt again this week, which won't help his case.

They could keep just 8 DL, keep Ellis for depth at NT or Moore at DE (and he can play as a nickel DT too I think), or stash Weatherly on the roster as a developmental guy (who should be able to contribute on special teams given his athleticism). I'd rather see them do any of those than keep Crichton, unless he finally shows evidence of his potential in a game situation.

That is the definite caveat. If he doesn't show up, he's gone.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little different scenario; just to change things up.

Offense (24 + 2 PUP)
QB: Teddy Bridgewater | Shaun Hill | Taylor Heinicke (PUP)
RB: Adrian Peterson | Jerick McKinnon | Matt Asiata | Zach Line
TE: Kyle Rudolph | MyCole Pruitt | David Morgan | Rhett Ellison (PUP)
WR: Stefon Diggs | Charles Johnson | Laquon Treadwell | Adam Thielen | Cordarrelle Patterson
OT: Matt Kalil | Andre Smith | TJ Clemmings | Jeremiah Sirles
OG: Alex Boone | Brandon Fusco | Willie Beavers
OC: John Sullivan | Joe Berger

Defense (26)
DT: Linval Joseph | Sharrif Floyd | Tom Johnson | Shamar Stephen | Scott Crichton
DE: Everson Griffen | Brian Robison | Danielle Hunter | Justin Trattou | Stephen Weatherly
LB: Anthony Barr | Eric Kendricks | Chad Greenway | Emmanuel Lamur | Audie Cole | Edmond Robinson
CB: Xavier Rhodes | Terence Newman | Captain Munnerlyn | Trae Waynes | Mackensie Alexander | Marcus Sherels
SF: Harrison Smith | Anthony Harris | Andrew Sendejo | Jayron Kearse

Specialists (3)
K: Blair Walsh
P: Jeff Locke
LS: Kevin McDermott

Notes
* Heinicke and Ellison start the season on the PUP; a lineman (either side) could be let go; maybe David Morgan for Ellison.

*Jarius Wright is traded prior to the season beginning. With Diggs slotted (pun intended) to play inside and out, the continuing development of Adam Thielen, and the improvement of Cordarrelle Patterson, Jarius is the odd man out as he doesn't play any special teams.

*10 offensive lineman kept initially. Sullivan wins the starting center job and Berger is immediately the top interior backup. I'm keeping two backup tackles because of the uncertainty with Andre Smith as the new right tackle. Beavers and Kerin are developmental players.

*10 defensive lineman kept as well with Weatherly being the surprise 10th DL. With his athletic ability, I could see the team wanting to not expose him to waivers. He may eventually get cut to make room for one of the PUP players. Scott Crichton beats out Kenric Ellis after a solid pre-season on the interior. May be the eventual replacement for Tom Johnson.

*Some Practice Squad Candidates

QB - Joel Stave (if they move on from Heinicke)
RB - Jhurrell Pressley
WR - Moritz Bohringer
OL - Nick Easton
OL - Austin Shepherd
LB - Kentrell Brothers
CB - Tre Roberson
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ it looks like you are missing Kerin on your depth chart.

why keep Kerin instead of Easton?
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Heimdallr wrote:
^ it looks like you are missing Kerin on your depth chart.

why keep Kerin instead of Easton?

I tend to agree. Kerin and Easton will be two players that I'll be watching this preseason. From reports I read during training camp, Kerin looked more physical but really struggled with technique, where as Easton got a few good remarks on his technique, but I didn't read anything regarding his physicality. The only thing that could be in Kerin's favor is that he's lined up at guard as well as center, whereas I've only seen Easton mentioned at center.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would take rpmwr19 depth chart and:

- remove Scott Crichton and add Kentrell Brothers
- remove Stephen Weatherly and add Jarius Wright (no trade)
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Heimdallr wrote:
^ it looks like you are missing Kerin on your depth chart.

why keep Kerin instead of Easton?

I was missing him from the depth chart, but he should be up there in front of Beavers.

I kept Kerin, because he's shown to be more versatile (G/C) at the moment, and keeping a third center, who's only a center (at least so far), doesn't make sense to me.
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