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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:34 am    Post subject: Greatest V D of all time? Reply with quote

no, not me, the VIKINGS DEFENSE!

who would we make an all-star of all time defensive team with? who would join the Purple People Eaters' defensive line, Jared Allen? John Randle? who would get displaced from it?

secondary? linebackers?

who are/were the best of our best?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a starting point, here are the defensive players included in the "50 Greatest Vikings" list released in 2010.

DE
Jared Allen
Chris Doleman
Jim Marshall
Carl Eller

DT
Alan Page
Keith Millard
John Randle
Kevin Williams
Henry Thomas
Gary Larsen
Doug Sutherland

LB
Matt Blair
Wally Hilgenberg
Jeff Siemon
Scott Studwell
Roy Winston

CB
Bobby Bryant
Carl Lee
Antoine Winfield
Ed Sharockman

S
Joey Browner
Paul Krause
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take:

DE Jared Allen
DT Alan Page
DT John Randle
DE Jim Marshall

LB Matt Blair
LB Scott Studwell

CB Bobby Bryant
CB Carl Lee
CB Antoine Winfield

S Joey Browner
S Paul Krause


We are super strong at DL and have two great safeties, but a bit soft at CB and surprisingly weak at LB. I could see Anthony Barr and Xavier Rhodes making this team once they are done.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heimdallr wrote:
I'll take:

DE Jared Allen
DT Alan Page
DT John Randle
DE Jim Marshall

other than Allen and Marshall were both right DE's, if we care about being that specific.

as good as Allen was, Marshall was better in my eyes, as he did more than just rush the passer. i believe he holds the NFL record for recovered fumbles.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First Team

DE
Jared Allen
Jim Marshall

DT
Alan Page
John Randle

LB
Matt Blair
Jeff Siemon
Scott Studwell


CB
Bobby Bryant
Antoine Winfield


S
Joey Browner
Paul Krause

Second Team

DE
Chris Doleman
Carl Eller

DT
Keith Millard
Kevin Williams

LB
Wally Hilgenberg
E.J. Henderson
Chad Greenway

CB
Carl Lee
Ed Sharockman

S
Robert Griffith
Harrison Smith

I don't know a lot of those names being that they played 30 years before I was born so I kind of have to accept some of the 50 greatest Vikings. I had to throw in some love for some more recent guys, and with Greenway and Henderson, they had some really good years. I put in Harrison over Sharper, Thomas, Chavous for the second team. I don't know too much about some of the other older safeties other than Krause and Browner
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vike daddy wrote:
as good as Allen was, Marshall was better in my eyes, as he did more than just rush the passer. i believe he holds the NFL record for recovered fumbles.

exactly why I thought he would fit at LE
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D-Line
Jared Allen - Alan Page - Keith Millard - Chris Doleman

LB
Chad Greenway - Scott Studwell - Matt Blair

CB
Bobby Bryant - Xavier Rhodes - Antoine Winfield (Slot)

S
Joey Browner - Paul Krause
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vike daddy wrote:
Heimdallr wrote:
I'll take:

DE Jared Allen
DT Alan Page
DT John Randle
DE Jim Marshall

other than Allen and Marshall were both right DE's, if we care about being that specific.

as good as Allen was, Marshall was better in my eyes, as he did more than just rush the passer. i believe he holds the NFL record for recovered fumbles.


It was a pretty tough choice for me at RDE between Allen and Marshall. Right now Jared is mainly much just a pass rusher, but in his prime he pretty much did it all too. Maybe my memory is doing Jim Marshall a disservice, but I have Jared very high on my list.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vike daddy wrote:
Heimdallr wrote:
I'll take:

DE Jared Allen
DT Alan Page
DT John Randle
DE Jim Marshall

other than Allen and Marshall were both right DE's, if we care about being that specific.

as good as Allen was, Marshall was better in my eyes, as he did more than just rush the passer. i believe he holds the NFL record for recovered fumbles.


Didn't he also have the record for the most consecutive games started until grandpa broke it?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ probably, but Allen has been very healthy too, over many years.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greatest? Probably one of the treatable ones.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vike daddy wrote:
Heimdallr wrote:
I'll take:

DE Jared Allen
DT Alan Page
DT John Randle
DE Jim Marshall

other than Allen and Marshall were both right DE's, if we care about being that specific.

as good as Allen was, Marshall was better in my eyes, as he did more than just rush the passer. i believe he holds the NFL record for recovered fumbles.


does he also hold the record for returning those fumbles the wrong way?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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does he also hold the record for returning those fumbles the wrong way?

Rolling Eyes

any fan of Marshall knows we still won that game, despite his safety for the other team. only fools choose to remember a man of his talent for that one mistake, and make it the only thing they mention about him.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't put Allen ahead of either Marshall or Eller! Don't get me wrong, Allen is great, but all the members of the Purple People Eaters were better all-around defensive linemen.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

would Harrison Smith make an honorable mention list here? or is it too early for that so far?
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