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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a #1 cb. But servicable none the less. The guys will make the occasional play, but won't shuy anyone down.
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I remember when he let the bills wr (lee Evans iirc) knock the game winning pick out of his hands.

Laughing Laughing Laughing The opposite happened to Lee Evans later on.
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Nightmare wrote:
GaTechRavens wrote:
Nightmare wrote:
He started off pretty good for us, leading people to get ahead of themselves and think "great, we've got our #2 CB now!" Nuh-uh. He was alright though, we've had much worse, and now he's getting a chance on a team with a proper modern-day defensive scheme. Hope he does well.


LOL

Holy crap I thought I'd never say that.


It always amuses me when fans of a good team start acting like the sky is falling when something they've been great at for years is suddenly only average. Oh noes, we're not top 5 any more! Rolling Eyes

This year's average Ravens defense is still about 5x some of the garbage us Raiders fans (and Chris Johnson) have had to tolerate for the past decade.


Except the thing is, we went from top 3 to bottom 6 in a single year while only losing 3 starters from last season. Then we gained one back and lost 2 more, yet it appears we may have improved (could also be the opponents faced) since that. But the fact remains -- the Ravens defense is nowhere near what it once was.

2012:
27th in YPG
26th in PYPG
26th in RYPG
13th in PPG

2011:
3rd in YPG
4th in PYPG
2nd in RYPG
3rd in PPG

I don't think losing Redding, Jarret Johnson and Suggs is enough to account for that big of a drop across all categories. It's definitely impacted by them, but a lot of it is scheme and the fact that Pees is a lot more passive than Pagano and thus giving up a lot more plays.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best of Luck to CJ
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's see how Johnson does in Baltimore. With all the injuries to their defense they need all the help they can get.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flaccomania wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
Please tell me he can play the slot...


If he can't, then Jimmy Smith's injury is worse than we thought.


You called it. Looks like Jimmy Smith won't be back for another 6 weeks.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any update on the contract they signed him to? I assume since he cleared waivers he had to sign a different contract than the one he signed with KC but maybe I'm mistaken.
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Any update on the contract they signed him to? I assume since he cleared waivers he had to sign a different contract than the one he signed with KC but maybe I'm mistaken.


This is Chris Johnson, not Stanford Routt. Laughing
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Integrity wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
Please tell me he can play the slot...


If he can't, then Jimmy Smith's injury is worse than we thought.


You called it. Looks like Jimmy Smith won't be back for another 6 weeks.


Sad Who isn't banged up on the Ravens' defense. The only returning starters from last year's team that aren't dealing with injuries limiting their play are Pollard and Cary Williams.
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YESSSSSSSSSSS! We got our own CJ2K Applause Applause Applause


When did he rush for 2k yards?

Or is that the amount of yardage he gives up through the air in a year?
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Flaccomania wrote:
Nightmare wrote:
GaTechRavens wrote:
Nightmare wrote:
He started off pretty good for us, leading people to get ahead of themselves and think "great, we've got our #2 CB now!" Nuh-uh. He was alright though, we've had much worse, and now he's getting a chance on a team with a proper modern-day defensive scheme. Hope he does well.


LOL

Holy crap I thought I'd never say that.


It always amuses me when fans of a good team start acting like the sky is falling when something they've been great at for years is suddenly only average. Oh noes, we're not top 5 any more! Rolling Eyes

This year's average Ravens defense is still about 5x some of the garbage us Raiders fans (and Chris Johnson) have had to tolerate for the past decade.


Except the thing is, we went from top 3 to bottom 6 in a single year while only losing 3 starters from last season. Then we gained one back and lost 2 more, yet it appears we may have improved (could also be the opponents faced) since that. But the fact remains -- the Ravens defense is nowhere near what it once was.

2012:
27th in YPG
26th in PYPG
26th in RYPG
13th in PPG

2011:
3rd in YPG
4th in PYPG
2nd in RYPG
3rd in PPG

I don't think losing Redding, Jarret Johnson and Suggs is enough to account for that big of a drop across all categories. It's definitely impacted by them, but a lot of it is scheme and the fact that Pees is a lot more passive than Pagano and thus giving up a lot more plays.


Im pretty sure you watch our defense sunday. Im pretty sure you seen what our franchise has looked like the last 9 years. Chris Johnson could have went to about 27 other teams and would have been in better shape.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KiddKillah wrote:
MaddHatter wrote:
Any update on the contract they signed him to? I assume since he cleared waivers he had to sign a different contract than the one he signed with KC but maybe I'm mistaken.


This is Chris Johnson, not Stanford Routt. Laughing


OH SNAP!

Totally got that confused... LOL
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dante9876 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
Nightmare wrote:
GaTechRavens wrote:
Nightmare wrote:
He started off pretty good for us, leading people to get ahead of themselves and think "great, we've got our #2 CB now!" Nuh-uh. He was alright though, we've had much worse, and now he's getting a chance on a team with a proper modern-day defensive scheme. Hope he does well.


LOL

Holy crap I thought I'd never say that.


It always amuses me when fans of a good team start acting like the sky is falling when something they've been great at for years is suddenly only average. Oh noes, we're not top 5 any more! Rolling Eyes

This year's average Ravens defense is still about 5x some of the garbage us Raiders fans (and Chris Johnson) have had to tolerate for the past decade.


Except the thing is, we went from top 3 to bottom 6 in a single year while only losing 3 starters from last season. Then we gained one back and lost 2 more, yet it appears we may have improved (could also be the opponents faced) since that. But the fact remains -- the Ravens defense is nowhere near what it once was.

2012:
27th in YPG
26th in PYPG
26th in RYPG
13th in PPG

2011:
3rd in YPG
4th in PYPG
2nd in RYPG
3rd in PPG

I don't think losing Redding, Jarret Johnson and Suggs is enough to account for that big of a drop across all categories. It's definitely impacted by them, but a lot of it is scheme and the fact that Pees is a lot more passive than Pagano and thus giving up a lot more plays.


Im pretty sure you watch our defense sunday. Im pretty sure you seen what our franchise has looked like the last 9 years. Chris Johnson could have went to about 27 other teams and would have been in better shape.


I'm not denying that. I'm supporting GTR's laughing at the "proper modern day defensive scheme" comment.
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Flaccomania wrote:
dante9876 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
Nightmare wrote:
GaTechRavens wrote:
Nightmare wrote:
He started off pretty good for us, leading people to get ahead of themselves and think "great, we've got our #2 CB now!" Nuh-uh. He was alright though, we've had much worse, and now he's getting a chance on a team with a proper modern-day defensive scheme. Hope he does well.


LOL

Holy crap I thought I'd never say that.


It always amuses me when fans of a good team start acting like the sky is falling when something they've been great at for years is suddenly only average. Oh noes, we're not top 5 any more! Rolling Eyes

This year's average Ravens defense is still about 5x some of the garbage us Raiders fans (and Chris Johnson) have had to tolerate for the past decade.


Except the thing is, we went from top 3 to bottom 6 in a single year while only losing 3 starters from last season. Then we gained one back and lost 2 more, yet it appears we may have improved (could also be the opponents faced) since that. But the fact remains -- the Ravens defense is nowhere near what it once was.

2012:
27th in YPG
26th in PYPG
26th in RYPG
13th in PPG

2011:
3rd in YPG
4th in PYPG
2nd in RYPG
3rd in PPG

I don't think losing Redding, Jarret Johnson and Suggs is enough to account for that big of a drop across all categories. It's definitely impacted by them, but a lot of it is scheme and the fact that Pees is a lot more passive than Pagano and thus giving up a lot more plays.


Im pretty sure you watch our defense sunday. Im pretty sure you seen what our franchise has looked like the last 9 years. Chris Johnson could have went to about 27 other teams and would have been in better shape.


I'm not denying that. I'm supporting GTR's laughing at the "proper modern day defensive scheme" comment.


compare to the one on one 1960 scheme he was in Im pretty sure it is more modern day.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All i knew about him was that he was supposedly extraordinarily fast. Other than that, I'm not quite sure to how good he actually is as a cornerback. Are the Ravens getting themselves a good DB, or just an athlete?
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