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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:13 am    Post subject: possible Change of pace backs Reply with quote

you see it alot in todays NFL a 2 back system a sort of thunder and lightning if you may. these are some prospects that I like to be change of pace backs in the NFL. generally they are more of a speed back with some wiggle and good receiving the ball out of the back field

Andre Ellington-Clemson

STRENGTHS: Elite balance to keep his feet after contact and make "wow" runs even when it appears he's contained. Very good fluidity and start/stop ability with smooth lateral cuts and excellent initial burst. Good footwork and wiggle to shake defenders and slither through tight spaces to make something out of nothing.
Slippery and elusive with swivel hips, making him tough to tackle. Nice job finding the cut-back lane or bursting outside before accelerating and turning on the speed. Runs tough and won't avoid contact, lowering his pads and getting every yard he can. Tougher than he looks with good forward lean.

Works well weaving through traffic with very good vision and patience to pick through the defense. Displayed better confidence as a senior, playing faster and making more decisive movements. Good production the past two seasons, surpassing the 1,000-yard rushing mark both years.

WEAKNESSES: Lean framed with only average build, lacking traditional size or a muscular frame. Lacks power to push the pile or routinely break tackles with his strength.

Needs to improve his patience to allow blocks to develop, often out-running his blocks and running up the backs of his linemen. Tad indecisive at the line of scrimmage, but doesn't dance as much from previous years. Accelerates quickly but needs to stay under control in his cuts. Shared the backfield duties most of his career and had only four games with 20-plus carries in 2012.

Dealt with a nagging hamstring injury much of his senior season, something worth monitoring. Tough in pass protection but needs technique work and lacks the base strength to anchor. Might not fit in every offense and looks best suited for a zone-blocking scheme


Joseph Randle-Oklahoma State

Strengths: Very good speed and acceleration, not easy to catch from behind. Lowers his pads and tries to run over defenders, generating power from his fast momentum and running with purpose. Very good balance to bounce off defenders and pick up a lot of yards after contact, finishing each carry. Strong plant foot and lateral burst to accelerate quickly with springs in his legs. Looks to lower his pads and deliver hits with deceiving power and pop at the point of attack.
Leaner frame but cut with good muscle definition and has really dedicated himself in the weight room. Intense competitor and hard worker on and off the field. Finds the crease and gets north/south in a hurry. Very tough in pass protection to pick up the blitz and give up his body. Vocal leader and confident. Reliable receiver with 108 career receptions. Amassed 3,085 rushing yards the past three seasons with 43 total touchdowns.

Weaknesses: Leaner than ideal frame. Runs too upright at times and needs to show consistent pad level. Vision has improved but still has room to improve in this area, missing the run lanes at times. Run instincts are good, but still developing. Needs to improve his ball security to cut down the fumbles and keep his emotions in check.


Kenjon Barner-Oregon

STRENGTHS: Shifty runner with the stop-start-go ability to shake defenders in tight quarters and break free for long gains. Possesses excellent straight-line speed and is a threat to score every time he has the ball in his hands. Quick to the hole and shows very good vision to set up his blocks at the first level and downfield. Natural runner who can lull defenders to sleep by changing his gait and then exploding past them to ruin pursuit angles.
Reliable hands as a receiver out of the backfield and as a returner. Experience returning punts and kicks (has returned one of each for a touchdown) and has the vision and running skills to remain in this role at the NFL level.

WEAKNESSES: A finesse runner who only occasionally is able to break free from tackles and generate extra yardage after contact. Relies on cut-blocks rather than taking on pass rushers directly. Has struggled with fumbles over his career, especially when fielding punts and kickoffs.

COMPARES TO: Joe McKnight, RB, New York Jets -- Like McKnight, Barner possesses undeniable athleticism that has resulted in impressive statistics and plenty of highlight reel plays over his career. Each may lack the toughness and physicality, however, to ever serve as more than part of a rotation and special teamer in the NFL.


Ray Graham-Pitt

STRENGTHS: Fast athlete who could be a big-play threat on special teams, although he hasn't performed in that capacity since his sophomore season. Impressive lateral agility, burst and vision. Can lower his pads and finish runs too, picking up tough yards after contact.
WEAKNESSES: ACL injury in 2011 will require medical evaluation, although Graham logged 222 carries in 2012. He showed explosiveness at times, but didn't run the same he did before the injury. Undersized back who will struggle to carry a lead back role in the NFL. Graham will dance and spend too much time looking for the home run.

COMPARES TO: LeSean McCoy, RB, Philadelphia Eagles - Graham's lateral burst and ability to make fluid jump cuts are very reminiscent of McCoy when he starred at Pitt.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reggie Bush.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welp...not sure that any of those guys will be found in the later rounds. Maybe Graham, but I don't like him that much. He's not a burner.

Bring in Mike Goodson in free agency. He has experience with Chud. He has breakaway speed. Super underrated and offers what Reggie Bush would on a lesser scale...and will be cheaper.

He's perfect to complement Hardesty and T-Rich.

Then we don't need to spend a draft pick on a 3rd string runningback.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hornbybrown wrote:
Reggie Bush.


Ever since he got dumped by the big K hes been a very solid back.

I guess most of us wouldn't get much sleep if you had one of these in bed come night time... Or day .............

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goodson, interesting. I always liked him for some reason.

I don't want Reggie Bush. I mean, I wouldnt be upset, but I can't help but think we could allocate our resources better than paying triple just cause a guy has a high profile name.
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Jimmy G stays with New England this year.
We draft Garrett at #1 (out on a limb there).
We trade back from 12 for another 2018 1st.
We do NOT draft a QB in the first 2 rounds.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@RuiterWrongFAN: Oklahoma State RB Joseph Randle told me he met with #Browns RBs coach John Settle Thursday evening and other staffters
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

La'Rod Stephens-Howling | Running Back
Team: Arizona Cardinals
Age / DOB: (25) / 4/26/1987
Ht / Wt: 5'7' / 185
College: Pittsburgh

La'Rod Stephens-Howling - RB - Cardinals
The agent for unrestricted free agent RB La'Rod Stephens-Howling saids last time he talked to team, Rod Graves was GM.
Graves was relieved of his GM duties nearly two months ago, so it comes as a bit of a surprise that the new regime hasn't reached out to Stephens-Howling's camp. While "Hyphen" is expected to re-sign with Arizona, this news certainly places his future with the team in question.
Source: Ken Somers on Twitter Feb 23 - 11:34 AM
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Productiondawg wrote:
@RuiterWrongFAN: Oklahoma State RB Joseph Randle told me he met with #Browns RBs coach John Settle Thursday evening and other staffters

If he fell to the 5th id be ecstatic. I've got a huge feeling we're going trade down from somewhere and get some more picks in the 4th and 5th area. This draft is filled with a ton of talent around those rounds.
DizzyDean wrote:

I never even predicted Kizer to fail, I simply said he was an over drafted project. Now tell me that I am wrong in that regard.

This dude is gonna look real bad
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