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DudeWhat??
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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We should have kept Jerrod Johnson..why do we have 2 Back up qb's that we dont like? thats stupid.. _________________
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FourThreeMafia 
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 40070 Location: East of Sixburgh
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Jerrod Johnson is horrible and much worse than Leftwich or Batch. _________________
| cluelessororke wrote: | | I am going to laugh in your face when they don't even sniff WR until day three of the draft |
Still waiting for your laugh.... |
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at23steelers
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 3721 Location: United States
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Jerrod Johnson is horrible and much worse than Leftwich or Batch. |
He is an improvement over Ta'amu at being water boy!! You gotta give him that! |
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Chieferific 
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Batch is the better option in my mind. I'd take his game management over Leftwich's anyday. However with Lefty sitting at #2 on the depth chart it appears Batch's role is more of a coach than player. Leftwich's molasses delivery behind the Steeler OL could get ugly. Hopefully the line continues it's improved play and Haley's playcalling is effective with Lefty at the helm. _________________
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DudeWhat??
Joined: 01 Dec 2010 Posts: 427
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Jerrod Johnson is horrible and much worse than Leftwich or Batch. |
We dont know that..all we know is that he looked okay in short time preseason. _________________
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FourThreeMafia 
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 40070 Location: East of Sixburgh
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| DudeWhat?? wrote: | | FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Jerrod Johnson is horrible and much worse than Leftwich or Batch. |
We dont know that..all we know is that he looked okay in short time preseason. |
He looked okay in one game vs 3rd stringers. He looked awful the rest of the time. _________________
| cluelessororke wrote: | | I am going to laugh in your face when they don't even sniff WR until day three of the draft |
Still waiting for your laugh.... |
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gatek99 
Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 5069 Location: Ytown, Ohio 1 hour northwest of the Steelers
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | DudeWhat?? wrote: | | FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Jerrod Johnson is horrible and much worse than Leftwich or Batch. |
We dont know that..all we know is that he looked okay in short time preseason. |
He looked okay in one game vs 3rd stringers. He looked awful the rest of the time. |
I will still take him as depth at this point. Especially since he got some PT with the UFL a couple weeks ago.
This is why we should have signed a rookie QB. It would have been nice to develop Austin Davis, Keenum, or Kellen Moore as an UDFA _________________
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GreasyApples 
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:52 am Post subject: |
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I don't understand why Charlie Batch isn't the one getting the nod as the starter for this week.
His skillset would suggest that it's a lot more suited Todd Haley's offense...When I say skillset I'm saying his lack of an arm and the fact that he looks less like a statue in the pocket than Byron. _________________
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SteelersFan2333
Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 814 Location: Ft Lauderdale
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| GreasyApples wrote: | I don't understand why Charlie Batch isn't the one getting the nod as the starter for this week.
His skillset would suggest that it's a lot more suited Todd Haley's offense...When I say skillset I'm saying his lack of an arm and the fact that he looks less like a statue in the pocket than Byron. |
While Batch would be better in this dink and dunk style due to Leftys 3 second release, I think Lefty is the better QB right now. I do think that Haley will have to change the offense a little going with a longer, deeper attack that may actually help stretch the field a little, opening up the running game a little more. Leftys release just isnt suited for what we have been running, we just have to hope if they do go to a deeper attack the extra time holding the ball doesnt get Lefty killed due to the OL having to hold their blocks longer. |
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lionslicer 
Joined: 06 Nov 2010 Posts: 1759
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| GreasyApples wrote: | I don't understand why Charlie Batch isn't the one getting the nod as the starter for this week.
His skillset would suggest that it's a lot more suited Todd Haley's offense...When I say skillset I'm saying his lack of an arm and the fact that he looks less like a statue in the pocket than Byron. |
Charlie's play has severely declined, he's only on the team because Jarrod Johnson was worse and he's a fan favorite.
If worse comes to worse, I think he can handle himself alright in a game, but Byron at this point is a better quarterback. _________________ Kickers are people too |
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SouthwestSteel
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treat88 
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Guessing it's a Grade 1-2 anterior SC sprain.
Amendola's was left sided and posterior and came within millimeters of nicking his aorta.
So, in the big scheme of things, certainly could have been worse. In the 2012 season scheme of things, this is a damn unfortunate time to lose Ben. Horrific scheduling combined with horrific luck on this one.
2-3 weeks to resume activities. Maybe a 4th week to get used to the pain while throwing. Amendola missed 3 games with his and he doesn't have to throw the rock.
Sounds like the rib injury might be a dislocation off the spinal column which is threatening internal organs (lungs, heart, diaphragm). No source on this. Just an educated guess.
Either way, I don't think we see Ben for at least a month. Nothing to be done about these injuries. Reduce'em, let em heal. Return to play when the risk of reinjury is determined to be at baseline and symptoms allow. Ben will probably still need a needle for his next couple starts even 4 weeks out. These suckers hurt big time bad. _________________
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SouthwestSteel
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| treat88 wrote: | Guessing it's a Grade 1-2 anterior SC sprain.
Amendola's was left sided and posterior and came within millimeters of nicking his aorta.
So, in the big scheme of things, certainly could have been worse. In the 2012 season scheme of things, this is a damn unfortunate time to lose Ben. Horrific scheduling combined with horrific luck on this one.
2-3 weeks to resume activities. Maybe a 4th week to get used to the pain while throwing. Amendola missed 3 games with his and he doesn't have to throw the rock.
Sounds like the rib injury might be a dislocation off the spinal column which is threatening internal organs (lungs, heart, diaphragm). No source on this. Just an educated guess.
Either way, I don't think we see Ben for at least a month. Nothing to be done about these injuries. Reduce'em, let em heal. Return to play when the risk of reinjury is determined to be at baseline and symptoms allow. Ben will probably still need a needle for his next couple starts even 4 weeks out. These suckers hurt big time bad. |
Thanks for your insights into injuries as always . . . |
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treat88 
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| SouthwestSteel wrote: | | Thanks for your insights into injuries as always . . . |
Here's to hoping I am wrong with the time frame.
SC + ribs to me = huge risk of reinury until things stabilize and huge amounts of pain with the throwing motion, but Ben is not quite like my average patient so maybe I err on the pessimistic side. _________________
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SouthwestSteel
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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I thought I would throw out some of my own professional insights into ligament damage, which is a part of Ben's situation, and tendons and ligaments in general. This may be of use to some of you at some point in your lives wherever you may live.
I am 54, have played a ton of pick up basketball on rough courts over the decades, and go on extensive cross-country expeditions regularly. I have yet to even sprain an ankle after all these years. One important part of my professional training is as a practitioner of Chinese Herbology. Many Americans are relatively unaware of the accumulated wisdom of various Master herbologists, who built upon successive generations of very careful observations, extensive note taking, and a highly systematic system of synthetic inductive logic. I use certain herbs to strengthen my ligaments and tendons and help prevent injuries. In addition, I also have studied qigong and a few martial arts, which have their own insights on tendons and ligaments.
The bottom line in working with athletes over the years is that I have been able to help repair even torn tendons and ligaments in half the time that sports medicine was expecting. There are a few key herbs that have a powerful, synergistic, time-tested healing impact on tendons, ligaments, and even broken bones. Other herbs are of use in radically reducing the inflammation and pain that accompanies such injuries. Many high-level martial artists around the world are quite aware of the power of this ancient knowledge, for they have repeatedly been able to get back into their sparring much quicker. And by the way, a shortage of manganese in the body also predisposes one to more easily injuring tendons and ligaments. Omega 3 fatty acids are also important for avoiding tendonitis. |
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