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ArrowheadRage58
Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 3491 Location: Hate for the Donkeys is at a mile high
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:57 pm Post subject: More likely to be brought back? |
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At this point, it's almost a sure thing all 4 will be gone...on the other hand Vick/Reid have had success, what if the OLine was better? Why can't I shake the feeling that KC's FO doesn't know what it takes to win and will keep one or two of these jokers for another year (Pioli included).
On a side note, how do people think KC would do with Reid/Vick in place of Cassel and Romeo. Does KC have anything that Philly is missing to be a winning team such as an adequate O Line? Someone started an Andy Reid thread in the KC forum, which is why i'm asking. I don't think we get Vick, but someone without a QB will give him a shot....and KC may be to close too Leavenworth for Vick.
Also curious on where people think these 4 will land:
Reid- year off, HC job next year?
Vick-starter? Backup? out of league?
Cassel- 3rd string? Camp fodder? out of league?
Romeo- DC? Turnover control specialist? _________________
| fortdetroit wrote: | | I wonder if people realize that Matt Cassel's 2 best seasons of his career are probably better than anything Alex Smith has ever done. |
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Flaccomania 
Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 16543 Location: Parkville, MD
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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They'll all be gone.
I could see KC bringing in Vick, but he's just going to bust there too. He's not as good as people want to believe he is, IMO.
Reid would be an awful choice in KC -- if he goes there, say goodbye to Charles being productive, Reid hates to run the ball.
Where I think they go?
Reid - Year off
Vick - Compete for starting job somewhere with a bad team
Cassel - Backup somewhere, he's at least got experience in case a starter goes down
Romeo - DC job somewhere, maybe back to NE? I don't know what their DC situation is like. _________________
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ArrowheadRage58
Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 3491 Location: Hate for the Donkeys is at a mile high
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Well Vick did something right in '10 and it wasn't fluky stats like Cassel's TD/INT ratio...he's never gonna be above average at reading defenses, but that OLine in Philly is so bad, what if it was just adequate?
Reid may use the run game less, but that's not all bad. Most KC fans like the idea of using Charles around 15-18 carries a game and extending his career...but still would like to see him get it 25-30 in a big time close game. I also drool over how good Charles would be with a respected passing game. _________________
| fortdetroit wrote: | | I wonder if people realize that Matt Cassel's 2 best seasons of his career are probably better than anything Alex Smith has ever done. |
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RainbowCarebear 
Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 22693 Location: Avenging his brother by slaying three of Prince Rhaegar's bannermen and later Rodrik Greyjoy
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Non of those are coming back. _________________
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Flaccomania 
Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 16543 Location: Parkville, MD
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | Well Vick did something right in '10 and it wasn't fluky stats like Cassel's TD/INT ratio...he's never gonna be above average at reading defenses, but that OLine in Philly is so bad, what if it was just adequate?
Reid may use the run game less, but that's not all bad. Most KC fans like the idea of using Charles around 15-18 carries a game and extending his career...but still would like to see him get it 25-30 in a big time close game. I also drool over how good Charles would be with a respected passing game. |
First, in 2010, Vick played a good first 6 games. He was excellent in those games, no doubt. From that point on in the season, he was 137/219 (62.6%), 1668 yards, 7.6 YPA, 8 TD, 6 INT. Certainly not bad still, but not nearly as impressive.
Then you look at 2011. Then you look at 2012. And it's clear that 2010 was a fluke season. That's his only season in his career where he finished the year with a rating above 85.
As for Reid -- you really don't quite understand how much he is run-averse. Just ask Eagles fans who want McCoy to be more involved -- they have been frustrated with the lack of a run game by Reid for a very long time. McCoy has averaged 16.5 carries a game since 2010 (didnt include 2009 b/c I wasn't sure how involved he was). You want to see Charles run the ball 25-30 times in close games? McCoy has only ran it 25 or more times in 3/39 games since 2010. He's ran it 20+ times in 8/39 games. 15+ times in only 22/39 games. If you want Reid, that's fine and dandy, but your run game is going to be less used than it would with other coaches. And if Vick is your QB with Reid, you're just going to hurt your team even more. _________________
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tom cody 
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6571 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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I don't expect any of them to come back but I can see Vick and Reid possibly coming back next year to Philly. _________________ Why, if it isn't my old friend, Mr. McGreg. With a leg for an arm and an arm for a leg. |
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JammerHammer21 
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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I hope Cassel/Romeo. Piloi be trolling hopefully. _________________
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green24 
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| JammerHammer21 wrote: | | I hope Cassel/Romeo. Piloi be trolling hopefully. |
That's if Pioli is brought back. Hunt family be trolling hopefully. _________________
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TwoToneBlue 
Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 5749 Location: Outside Amie Wells Window
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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The only one I can see sticking around is Reid if Foles can lead them to some wins. _________________
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vikingsrule
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Cassel and Reid are goners, both seem to be a sure thing at this point. |
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footy_29 
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 11161 Location: The Frozen Tundra that is Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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All will be gone, undoubtedly. Hoping Crennel considers a DC job for the Skins. _________________
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RaisinBran
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 8876 Location: 925 Bay Area
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| green24 wrote: | | JammerHammer21 wrote: | | I hope Cassel/Romeo. Piloi be trolling hopefully. |
That's if Pioli is brought back. Hunt family be trolling hopefully. |
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WhackyPlague 
Joined: 25 May 2008 Posts: 3827 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Reid has a chance (however small) of keeping his job, but he's probably the only one who does. |
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Wislakrak
Joined: 03 Jan 2012 Posts: 163
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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None of them will stay. KC will take a high pick in the draft no matter what and will surely get Barkley or Smith. While Crennel is the most likely to keep his job with him being a new HC as well as most of the blame being directed to Pioli, deserved and undeserved. While Reid should take a year off or work somewhere as an assistant to an OC. While Vick will probably go to a team like the Jets, Cardinals, or even the Bills to compete for a starting job. Cassel will go to back up a QB who isn't in trouble of losing his job. _________________
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Pugger 
Joined: 01 May 2010 Posts: 4335 Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Flaccomania wrote: | They'll all be gone.
I could see KC bringing in Vick, but he's just going to bust there too. He's not as good as people want to believe he is, IMO.
Reid would be an awful choice in KC -- if he goes there, say goodbye to Charles being productive, Reid hates to run the ball.
Where I think they go?
Reid - Year off
Vick - Compete for starting job somewhere with a bad team
Cassel - Backup somewhere, he's at least got experience in case a starter goes down
Romeo - DC job somewhere, maybe back to NE? I don't know what their DC situation is like. |
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