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Better team on paper?
Vikings
59%
 59%  [ 25 ]
Lions
40%
 40%  [ 17 ]
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joru1000


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vikefan79 wrote:
ECPackers wrote:
QB LIONS
RB/FB VIKINGS
WR LIONS
OL Vikings

DL lions
secondary vikings
LB vikings
k/st vikings



The Vikings are btter against the run and we sack the QB more often. The Lions having a better dline is a myth.



This. Nick Fairley is completely mediocre, Vanden Bosch is old and it shows, Cliff Avrill is good but not better than his peer Brian Robison, and Suh is overrated (if people are still saying he's a good DT). The Vikings d-line is better and it shows on paper and on the field.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joru1000 wrote:
Vikefan79 wrote:
ECPackers wrote:
QB LIONS
RB/FB VIKINGS
WR LIONS
OL Vikings

DL lions
secondary vikings
LB vikings
k/st vikings



The Vikings are better against the run and we sack the QB more often. The Lions having a better dline is a myth.



This. Nick Fairley is completely mediocre, Vanden Bosch is old and it shows, Cliff Avrill is good but not better than his peer Brian Robison, and Suh is overrated (if people are still saying he's a good DT). The Vikings d-line is better and it shows on paper and on the field.


I look at Avril as the Lions version of Everson Griffen. Situational pass rusher at best right now.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fortdetroit wrote:
meh, minnesota has won twice and has a better record so there really isn't another answer to the question other than minnesota.


Exactly what I was thinking. I was checking the date of this thread to make sure it wasn't made at the beginning of the season or something. It was made right after the season sweep? (scratches head)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joru1000 wrote:
Vikefan79 wrote:
ECPackers wrote:
QB LIONS
RB/FB VIKINGS
WR LIONS
OL Vikings

DL lions
secondary vikings
LB vikings
k/st vikings



The Vikings are btter against the run and we sack the QB more often. The Lions having a better dline is a myth.



This. Nick Fairley is completely mediocre, Vanden Bosch is old and it shows, Cliff Avrill is good but not better than his peer Brian Robison, and Suh is overrated (if people are still saying he's a good DT). The Vikings d-line is better and it shows on paper and on the field.



While this while thread is dumb your assessment of Fairley is off. He was dominant and disruptive all game Sun. He was in backfield nearly every play.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ECPackers wrote:
QB LIONS
RB/FB VIKINGS
WR LIONS
OL Vikings

DL lions
secondary vikings
LB vikings
k/st vikings

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Close but I'll go with the Lions.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I'm looking strictly at talent, on paper, and not considering records, this season's matchups, etc... I have to go with the Lions.

If asked who is the better team this year, I would have to go with the Vikings. But, if I consider all things, I'd say it's pretty close. I think the Vikings have overreached a little this year and the Lions have not played to their potential.

So much context....it's hard to pin these things down.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's pretty even. Lions are better at QB and receiver, Vikings are better in the secondary, at RB, and on ST. Everything else is pretty close... Oline, Dline, etc are a wash to me.

AP being AP + 2-0 vs my Lions this year, I'll have to say the Vikings ARE better, but on paper they're about the same.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QB: Lions
RB: Vikings
WR: Lions
OL: Vikings
DL: Lions
LB: Lions
Secondary: Vikings
Special Teams: Vikings


But, head to head, I would say(as they showed this last weekend) the Vikings are a better team overall.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

detfan782004 wrote:
joru1000 wrote:
Vikefan79 wrote:
ECPackers wrote:
QB LIONS
RB/FB VIKINGS
WR LIONS
OL Vikings

DL lions
secondary vikings
LB vikings
k/st vikings



The Vikings are btter against the run and we sack the QB more often. The Lions having a better dline is a myth.



This. Nick Fairley is completely mediocre, Vanden Bosch is old and it shows, Cliff Avrill is good but not better than his peer Brian Robison, and Suh is overrated (if people are still saying he's a good DT). The Vikings d-line is better and it shows on paper and on the field.



While this while thread is dumb your assessment of Fairley is off. He was dominant and disruptive all game Sun. He was in backfield nearly every play.


Fairley did dominate, but against Charlie Johnson.

And Charlie Johnson is probably a bottom 5 starting G if not the worst.

That is no discredit to Fairley, because i like him. But i just think he didnt have much of a competition.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Vikings get the edge, just a much more complete team honestly. The Lions have become too one dimensional for my taste.

Matthew Stafford and Calvin Johnson are truly incredible and i can understand why some would choose Detroit over MN for that matter. However, even though the Lions have such an advantage at QB and WR, look where it got Detroit this year in head to head games against MN.

QB - Lions
RB - Vikings
WR - Lions
TE - Lions
OL - Vikings

DL - Vikings
LB - wash
DB - Vikings

ST - Vikings
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ugLymayNe wrote:
DL: Lions




How?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah really.


Jared Allen > Vanden Bosch
Suh > Kevin Williams > Nick Fairley > Letroy Guoin > Corey Williams
Brian Robison > Cliff Avril
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

joru1000 wrote:
Yeah really.


Jared Allen > Vanden Bosch
Suh > Kevin Williams > Nick Fairley > Letroy Guoin > Corey Williams
Brian Robison > Cliff Avril


Honestly I don't Suh is that good.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikingsrule wrote:

TE - Lions


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