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DPOY?

J.J. Watt

49%

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Von Miller

27%

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Peanut Tillman

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Other

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sp6488

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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:48 pm Post subject:

texans_uk wrote:

I'm curious have justin smith or haloti ngata ever put up seasons like jj watts 2012?

i don't think that anyone is suggesting that he isn't something special. To answer your question, no. But they are also very different players than Watt.
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:50 pm Post subject:

c0insnap wrote:

texans_uk wrote:

I'm curious have justin smith or haloti ngata ever put up seasons like jj watts 2012?

No football player ever has had a season like Watt. Best defensive end ever... fo sho.

Ehhh, let's not go throwing around ever so lightly. Reggie White I think still deserves that title as well as quite a few guys above Watt at the moment.
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject:

sp6488 wrote:

c0insnap wrote:

texans_uk wrote:

I'm curious have justin smith or haloti ngata ever put up seasons like jj watts 2012?

No football player ever has had a season like Watt. Best defensive end ever... fo sho.

Ehhh, let's not go throwing around ever so lightly. Reggie White I think still deserves that title as well as quite a few guys above Watt at the moment.

Not to mention Bruce Smith
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:11 pm Post subject:

GaTechRavens wrote:

Looks like we're starting to get bored of JJ Watt and trying to drum up controversy. It's still him. It's closer, but it's still him.

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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject:

sp6488 wrote:

texans_uk wrote:

I'm curious have justin smith or haloti ngata ever put up seasons like jj watts 2012?

i don't think that anyone is suggesting that he isn't something special. To answer your question, no. But they are also very different players than Watt.

I was just trying to highlight the fact that whilst they have had similarly dominant seasons, they have never put up these kind of numbers. And to get DPOY recognition you need the stats.
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:21 pm Post subject:

MaddHatter wrote:

sp6488 wrote:

c0insnap wrote:

texans_uk wrote:

I'm curious have justin smith or haloti ngata ever put up seasons like jj watts 2012?

No football player ever has had a season like Watt. Best defensive end ever... fo sho.

Ehhh, let's not go throwing around ever so lightly. Reggie White I think still deserves that title as well as quite a few guys above Watt at the moment.

Not to mention Bruce Smith

I was being sarcastic as hell.
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject:

GaTechRavens wrote:

Looks like we're starting to get bored of JJ Watt and trying to drum up controversy. It's still him. It's closer, but it's still him.

Meh, it's week 11. DPOY when you're doing it this early is a very fluid situation. One guy gets hot, like Von Miller has recently, then he'll get the DPOY buzz. It's a "what have you done for me lately" kind of thing until the end of the season.

Watt was the clear DPOY and still is #1 IMO, but Von Miller has closed the gap considerably...
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reckless123

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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:29 pm Post subject:

texans_uk wrote:

sp6488 wrote:

texans_uk wrote:

I'm curious have justin smith or haloti ngata ever put up seasons like jj watts 2012?

i don't think that anyone is suggesting that he isn't something special. To answer your question, no. But they are also very different players than Watt.

I was just trying to highlight the fact that whilst they have had similarly dominant seasons, they have never put up these kind of numbers. And to get DPOY recognition you need the stats.

Because theyre different players thats why. Particularly Haloti Ngata.
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject:

c0insnap wrote:

texans_uk wrote:

I'm curious have justin smith or haloti ngata ever put up seasons like jj watts 2012?

No football player ever has had a season like Watt. Best defensive end ever... fo sho.

I actually thought you were being serious.
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

green24 wrote:

If Revis can't win DPOY, there is no CB that should be able to.

TBF Revis has never done what Tim Jennings is doing. TJ is the most targeted CB in the NFL (b/c he has a legit top 5 CB playing on the opposite side) and has been metrically the best since week 1.

However I still have Watt #1 just slightly ahead of Peanut.

And Jennings has never done what Revis always does.
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reckless123

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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject:

green24 wrote:

If Revis can't win DPOY, there is no CB that should be able to.

Well charles woodson won it the year that revis really was a contender. So i wouldnt go that far.
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reckless123

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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject:

Superman(DH23) wrote:

green24 wrote:

If Revis can't win DPOY, there is no CB that should be able to.

Revis not only had the picks but he was also shutting down teams #1 receivers and if im not mistaken Tillman is put on the #1 receiver. Not taking anything away from Jennings still having a great season, but revis' 2009 season was considered one of the best seasons by a CB in history.
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject:

sp6488 wrote:

c0insnap wrote:

texans_uk wrote:

I'm curious have justin smith or haloti ngata ever put up seasons like jj watts 2012?

No football player ever has had a season like Watt. Best defensive end ever... fo sho.

Ehhh, let's not go throwing around ever so lightly. Reggie White I think still deserves that title as well as quite a few guys above Watt at the moment.

I think c0in is being sarcastic...I could be wrong..
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johnnyboy8102

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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:03 pm Post subject:

TheVillain112 wrote:

GaTechRavens wrote:

Looks like we're starting to get bored of JJ Watt and trying to drum up controversy. It's still him. It's closer, but it's still him.

I generally agree with this but there have been seasons in the past in which a player got some early season hype and carried it to the DPOY award by season's end. So it can happen.

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