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| DPOY? |
| J.J. Watt |
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49% |
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| Von Miller |
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27% |
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| Peanut Tillman |
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| Other |
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Meco
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| NextBigThing wrote: | | patsfan25 wrote: | | NextBigThing wrote: | | Chandler Jones brings the chaos every down; its either a sack or a hold every time. Fact. He is the new anchor of the Patriot all world, unstoppable defense. |
And with that, NBT never really means anything he says.. |
the bringer of chaos, dr. doom, 'military drone' jones. An unstoppable force.  |
Dat bend shape. Goodness.
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DreDay80
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| It's still Watt IMO even though I believe Von will win it at the end. Watt hasn't slowed down, it's just hard to rack up sacks when you're literally getting double and triple teamed every play.... |
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broncos67
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| DreDay80 wrote: | | It's still Watt IMO even though I believe Von will win it at the end. Watt hasn't slowed down, it's just hard to rack up sacks when you're literally getting double and triple teamed every play.... |
I believe it'll end up between Watt and Miller, but just an FYI, Miller is double teamed just as much as JJ Watt
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AntiSuperstar
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:00 am Post subject: |
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My vote goes to J.J. Watt.
| DreDay80 wrote: | | It's still Watt IMO even though I believe Von will win it at the end. Watt hasn't slowed down, it's just hard to rack up sacks when you're literally getting double and triple teamed every play.... |
Good thing Watt isn't doubled every play eh?
| texans_uk wrote: | | I'm curious have justin smith or haloti ngata ever put up seasons like jj watts 2012? |
Not really, no. They're both better run defenders than Watt(particularly Justin Smith) but neither have the athletic ability to rush the passer and knock balls down like Watt does. Haloti Ngata doesn't really deserve mention anyway. Calais Campbell is the guy who doesn't get enough attention. Out of all of those guys he's probably the one who would stand the best chance of replicating what Watt does in that defense.
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JerseysFinest27
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Im still going J.J. Watt too, although Miller and Tillman are starting to catch up. Should know more about this award in another 4 weeks.
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c0insnap
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| texans_uk wrote: | | I'm curious have justin smith or haloti ngata ever put up seasons like jj watts 2012? |
No football player ever has had a season like Watt. Best defensive end ever... fo sho.
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green24
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:04 am Post subject: |
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If Revis can't win DPOY, there is no CB that should be able to.
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Superman(DH23)
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| green24 wrote: | | If Revis can't win DPOY, there is no CB that should be able to. |
TBF Revis has never done what Tim Jennings is doing. TJ is the most targeted CB in the NFL (b/c he has a legit top 5 CB playing on the opposite side) and has been metrically the best since week 1.
However I still have Watt #1 just slightly ahead of Peanut.
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fretgod99
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| BroncoinGermany wrote: | | DontTazeMeBro wrote: | I think Tim Jennings should definitely be in the discussion. Possibly Lance Briggs too.
I'd go Tillman. 7 FF is just crazy. 2 pick 6s and being a lockdown corner on top of that. |
Noted. I tried to add 'Other' to the poll, yet somehow this wasn't included. |
FIFY
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broncos67
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | green24 wrote: | | If Revis can't win DPOY, there is no CB that should be able to. |
TBF Revis has never done what Tim Jennings is doing. TJ is the most targeted CB in the NFL (b/c he has a legit top 5 CB playing on the opposite side) and has been metrically the best since week 1.
However I still have Watt #1 just slightly ahead of Peanut. |
The year Bailey lost to Jason Taylor, he was having arguably one of the greatest statistical seasons ever for a CB. It's unfair that CBs have a tough time winning.
Tim Jennings and Tillman are both playing out of their minds. If either of them won it, I honestly wouldn't be mad. There's four players who deserve it right now.
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bucsfan333
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Completion percentage against, QBR against, etc. don't show up on the stat sheet like a 20ish sack season does. That's why pass rushers win DPOTY over DBs.
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SnA ExclusiVe
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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*insert Bears defender here* should win DPOY as of right now.
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Jakuvious
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | green24 wrote: | | If Revis can't win DPOY, there is no CB that should be able to. |
TBF Revis has never done what Tim Jennings is doing. TJ is the most targeted CB in the NFL (b/c he has a legit top 5 CB playing on the opposite side) and has been metrically the best since week 1.
However I still have Watt #1 just slightly ahead of Peanut. |
Jennings is not the best, metrically. Maybe if you want to just use QB rating against, but that kind of comes with the whole 8 INTs thing. Brandon Flowers and Ladarius Webb (pre-injury) have both allowed lower completion percentages, lower ypa against, lower ypc against, the same or fewer TDs against, and FAR fewer yards and completions against.
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SnA ExclusiVe
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Jakuvious wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | green24 wrote: | | If Revis can't win DPOY, there is no CB that should be able to. |
TBF Revis has never done what Tim Jennings is doing. TJ is the most targeted CB in the NFL (b/c he has a legit top 5 CB playing on the opposite side) and has been metrically the best since week 1.
However I still have Watt #1 just slightly ahead of Peanut. |
Jennings is not the best, metrically. Maybe if you want to just use QB rating against, but that kind of comes with the whole 8 INTs thing. Brandon Flowers and Ladarius Webb (pre-injury) have both allowed lower completion percentages, lower ypa against, lower ypc against, the same or fewer TDs against, and FAR fewer yards and completions against. |
I would also argue that Lardarius Webb (post-injury) has the best CB metrics in the NFL. 0 targets, 0 catches, 0 touchdowns, 0.00 QBR against him.
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MaddHatter
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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I see it as Watt's to lose with 4 or 5 contenders behind him
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