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thestonedkoala


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:50 am    Post subject: Mid-Season Madness Mock Reply with quote

Minnesota finishes the season 7-9 and makes some big changes in the off season.

- New Coach: Mike Zimmer (Chip Kelly declines, Kyle Shannon declines)
- Offensive Coordinator: Rob Chudzinski (fired due to Carolina having a bad year)
- Defensive Coordinator: Adam Zimmer

Moving to a 3-4 defense, Minnesota lets Kevin Williams walk. They trade Jared Allen for a pair of 2nd round draft picks and a conditional from Atlanta. They release Joe Webb, Charlie Johnson, John Carlson. They don't re-sign Kevin Williams, Erin Henderson, or Jerome Simpson.

They bring in Adam Levitre as their big free agent with Ray Mauagula from Cincinnati and Ricky Jean-Francois from San Francisco as their other signings. As well they bring in Jason Campbell as backup quarterback.

With a 7-9 record, Minnesota is slated to draft 12th overall.

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Draft:

12th Overall:
Minnesota trades this to St. Louis for a future 1st round pick, the 24th overall pick and 3rd round pick.

24th Overall: Tyler Wilson, QB Arkansas. I think Wilson will slide due to Arkansas being a bad team and him getting knocked out. It works in Minnesota's benefit as they try their hand at a new quarterback.

44th Overall: Kenny Vaccaro, S Texas. Vaccaro slides because Texas' defense has been awful this season. Vaccaro is a gambler and is a heavy hitter but he whiffs a lot as well. He needs to smarten up but can be a home run hitter.

63rd Overall (from Atlanta): Michael Mauti, ILB Penn State. Mauti gives Minnesota another solid linebacker to pair up with Mauagula on the inside.

74th Overall: Marcus Davis, WR Virginia Tech. I think Davis will rise a bit but right now he's graded between a 2-4th round pick on the sites I've read. He gets dinged for not having a great quarterback but could be the big receiver Minnesota needs.

88th Overall (from St. Louis): Da'Rick Rogers, WR Tennessee Tech. Minnesota grabs another wide receiver to fill out their group.

106th Overall: Jamarkus McFarland, DT Oklahoma. Minnesota needs a defensive tackle and picks the best one there is.

118th Overall (from Detroit): Gerald Hodges, LB. Penn State. Minnesota grabs the second linebacker as they need some backups there.

(5-7 is best pick available)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, Ray Mauagula has been worse than our linebackers from most of the reports I've seen so far this year...that's not good.

Second, I will never be a fan of a switch to a 3-4 as i think enough teams are using it these days the greatest benefit of the switch isn't what it once was (aka able to find great starters later because they weren't the type of player 4-3 teams needed). Also I think the second biggest benefit (aka teams pratice more against a 4-3 than 3-4 has started to become less and less true). But switching to a more blitz heavy or giants type of 4-3 and abandoning the zone for the most part would be my choice.

Other than that sure not too bad...except without switching to a 3-4 i wouldn't take less than a first+ for allen.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Zimmer is a 4-3 defensive coordinator, and only ran the 3-4 in Dallas when Wade Phillips was there.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikingsrule wrote:
Mike Zimmer is a 4-3 defensive coordinator, and only ran the 3-4 in Dallas when Wade Phillips was there.


But Kansas City runs a 3-4 defense and that's where Alan Zimmer works.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow ...Glad you arent running the team...this off season and draft sets us back even farther than we are know..
We dont have the athletes to play a 3-4 defense...so your going to depend on a bunch of rookies...not good

Tyler Wilson ..really? there were preseason top 5 and have stunk it up..then you trade and cut our two defensive leaders...

We are only a few spots away from being a very solid..this scenerio puts us into full rebuild mode imo
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like a legit 3-4 more years of rebuilding...

No thanks
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thestonedkoala


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chuck44 wrote:
Wow ...Glad you arent running the team...this off season and draft sets us back even farther than we are know..


Actually we continue to set ourselves back.

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We dont have the athletes to play a 3-4 defense...so your going to depend on a bunch of rookies...not good


Why not? We have drafted a bunch of guys that are hybrid 3-4/4-3 guys.

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Tyler Wilson ..really? there were preseason top 5 and have stunk it up..then you trade and cut our two defensive leaders...


What's any different than Williams walking (which most fans have agree will do) and Allen leaving next year? As for Arkansas, yes let's ignore the entire offseason of Patrino destroying that team.

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We are only a few spots away from being a very solid..this scenerio puts us into full rebuild mode imo


No, we are not. QB is still questionable. WR. Defensive tackle. Guard. Linebacker. And hell defensive end in a year or two.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="thestonedkoala"]
chuck44 wrote:
Wow ...Glad you arent running the team...this off season and draft sets us back even farther than we are know..


Actually we continue to set ourselves back.

Quote:

We dont have the athletes to play a 3-4 defense...so your going to depend on a bunch of rookies...not good


Why not? We have drafted a bunch of guys that are hybrid 3-4/4-3 guys.

Quote:

Tyler Wilson ..really? there were preseason top 5 and have stunk it up..then you trade and cut our two defensive leaders...


What's any different than Williams walking (which most fans have agree will do) and Allen leaving next year? As for Arkansas, yes let's ignore the entire offseason of Patrino destroying that team.

Quote:

We are only a few spots away from being a very solid..this scenerio puts us into full rebuild mode imo


No, we are not. QB is still questionable. WR. Defensive tackle. Guard. Linebacker. And hell defensive end in a year or two.[/quote

Your answers only strengthens my argument!....You want to start a bunch of rookies with a new defensive scheme we have never ran before..sounds like a regression not progression

Our defense is set next year in the DB back field....one run stuffer on defense easily had in FA or draft...that alone improves your lb play...

LB can be had in draft or FA...same as OG....upgrading oline improves your receiving core giving Ponder more time...Wright showed he can do job at receiver...so ya we are only a few players away...your scenerio depends on rookies and s new scheme.

OH forgot KWill ...fans agree he leaves...really.are we in the front office we have no clue where there heads are ...Williams is actually playing very well this year...he is finally healthy..been hurt for 2 years,,,pass rush is back...he has 3 years left easily...dt play well into there 30,s
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